LiveLIVE: Kingston Council count heads towards eight hour mark

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Summary

  • Party has to hit 25 seats to guarantee win
  • Con 28
  • Lib Dems 17
  • Lab 0
  • UKIP 0
  • TUSC 0
  • Green 0
  • Independent 0
  • BNP 0

10:28am

Just to recap:

Councillors were fuming at the length of time it took to count the votes with threats of an inquiry

But they were finally put out of their misery when Lib Dem Liz Green conceded defeat and told the Conservatives they would end up with more seats than her party.

10:22am

So that brings the election count to an end.

Conservatives have 28 councillors

Lib Dems have 17

Three more seats are to be decided in Norbiton - with two likely to go to Labour.

10:20am

After saying they might do Norbiton ward later, then that they were going to do it today, they have now decided to do Norbiton recount on Sunday

10:08am

Surbiton Hill result: LIB DEM HOLD

* Lib Dem John Ayles 1454 

Lab David Cooper 402

* Lib Dem Hilary Gander 1445 

Lab Richard Heys 426

Con Peter Kelk 1301

Green Brian Mulley 410

Con Ronak Pandya 1147 

# Lib Dem Malcolm Self 1323

Lab Anne Vase 403

UKIP Carol Ward 354

Con Alex Wright 1229

9:55am

Some more results from earlier today:

Beverley ward: TORIES GAINED TWO SEATS

* Con Paul Bedforth 1311

UKIP Melena Collis 461

Lab Marian Freedman 838

Lib Dem Lesley Heap 880

Lib Dem Trevor Heap 777

Lib Dem Simon James 778 

Lab Liz Meerabeau 714

* Con Raj Pandya 1046

* Con Terry Paton 1333

Lab Chris Priest 645

Green Chris Walker 552

 

Canbury ward: TORY HOLD

UKIP John Anderson 391

* Con Geoff Austin 1360

Green Ryan Coley 891

Lab Tony Cottrell 606

* Con Andrea Craig 1419

Ind Tim Dennen 188

Lib Dem Dan Falchikov 833

* Con David Glasspool 1241

Lib Dem Andrew King 809

Lib Dem Rebekah Moll 877

Green Charlie Redman 839 

Green Tariq Shabeer 580

Lab Colin Startup 477

Lab Nisha Tailor 431
 

St James ' ward: TORY HOLD

BNP David Child 100

TUSC Paul Couchman 34

Lib Dem Jason Ha 729

UKIP Linda Holligan 386

Labour Gerry Jones 598

* Con Howard Jones 1250

Lab Eric Masters 485

Lab Mary Masters 494

Lib Dem Montse Medina 719

* Con Priyen Patel 1082

Green Richard Senger 212

* Con Ken Smith 1188

UKIP Bona Watson 361

Lib Dem Annette Wookey 696 


Chessington South ward: LIB DEM HOLD

Con Michelle Akintoye 717

* Lib Dem Patricia Bamford 1131

Con Ryan Boxall 810

UKIP Coral Cottle 742

TUSC Louis Desbruslais 125

Lab John Dodwell 358

Lab David Griffin 376

UKIP Gina Healy 750

* Lib Dem Shiraz Mirza 1005

Lab Anthony Murray 326 

* Lib Dem Rachel Reid 1024 

Con Tania Symes 715
 

Old Malden ward: TORY HOLD

Lib Dem David Bamford 682

Lab William Bennett 480 

* Con Mary Clark 1348

UKIP Nicholas Collis 573

* Con Kevin Davis 1233

* Con David Fraser 1461

Green Lucy Howard 328

Lab Ian Kellett 433

Lib Dem Mi Soon Kim 610

Lab George Pearson 495

Lib Dem Richard Thompson 155
 

Grove ward: TORY GAIN ONE SEAT

Con Adrian Amer 958 

Lib Dem Shoiab Bajwa 888

* Lib Dem Stephen Brister 990

Green Tim Cobbett 384

* Con Phil Doyle 960

* Lib Dem Chrissie Hitchcock 1041

Green Alison Hood 404

Lab Tessa Kind 699

Lab Steve Mama 577

Lab Peter Roland 497

Green Tim Walker 366

Con Alex Ward 906

9:34am

There are still votes to be counted - notably in Norbiton where Labour look to have at least two councillors.

There are also results to be uploaded.

9:33am

The leader of Kingston's Liberal Democrats conceded defeat to the Conservatives this morning with votes still to be counted

Surrey Comet:

7:34am

Current total is Conservatives 15 councillors

Lib Dems 6

They need 25 councillors to guarantee a majority which would allow them to take over Kingston Council

7:30am

Tudor ward: CON HOLD

Lib Dem Maha Alfakier 554

Lab Judith Cowley 511

* Con David Cunningham 1617

Lab Philip Gregg 455

Lib Dem Anne-Marie Haddon 698

Lib Dem Jac Lott 701

Green Chris Murphy 629

* Con Hugh Scantlebury 1437

Lab Bob Smy 561

* Frank Thompson 1378

 

7:29am

Alexandra: TORY GAIN ONE SEAT

Lab Marilyn Corry 492

TUSC Kelvin Foote 78

* Con Ian George 1247

* Con Chris Hayes 1188

Lib Dem Neil Houston 937

* Con Richard Hudson 1263

Lab Niranjan Jayasundera 441

Lib Dem Haran Kailasapillai 991

Lab Paul May 485

UKIP Anthony Perham 521

Green Phil Smith 331

Lib Dem Andy Townsend 893

7:28am

Berrylands: LIB DEMS LOSE SEAT

* Lib Dem Sushila Abraham 1279

Lib Dem Jack Chesterman 1194

Lab Toby Flux 425

Lab Lawrence Green 424

* Con Mike Head 1273

* Con Andy Johnson 1237

Green Martin Lake 426

Lab Amina Rasool 344

TUSC Italo Savastio 69

UKIP Paul Scargill 384

Lib Dem Bob Steed 1040

Con Emma Woods 1149 

7:28am

Chessington North and Hook: NO CHANGE

UKIP Vic Bellamy 718

* Lib Dem Clive Chase 975

* Con Andrew Day 988

Lab Max Freedman 358

Con Mike Gibson 811

Con Lizzy Harrall 767

Green Simon Jakeman 344

Lab Steve Kearney 416

Lab Amanda Stuart 321

* Lib Dem Margaret Thompson 1,080

7:04am

Coombe Vale ward - CONSERVATIVE HOLD

Con Roy Arora 1629

Green Mona Ghobadi 323

Lib Dem Julie Haines 671

UKIP Jan Owen 350

Lab Sushil Pallen 531

Lab Ian Parker 605

Lab Geoffrey Parnell 480

Green Mariana Periklis 334

Green Mike Perry 313

* Con Julie Pickering 1689

* Con Cathy Roberts 1625

Lib Dem Phil Thompson 442

7:01am

Coombe Hill ward - CONSERVATIVE HOLD

* Con Rowena Bass 1537

UKIP Tina Collis 313

Lib Dem Iris Grender

* Con Eric Humphrey 1458

Lab Edward Naylor 453

Lib Dem Jonathan Oates 314

Lab Roger Price 388

Lab Sally Richardson 457

Green Jean Vidler 344

Lib Dem John Waddleton 332

* Con Gaj Wallooppillai

6:42am

6:41am

Candidates are drifting away - either to get supplies or to curl up in bed

6:33am

Tolworth and Hook Rise ward - LIB DEM HOLD

Lab Tony Banks 433

Con Mike Briggs 554

Con Mavis Cracknell 515

* Lib Dem Vicki Harris 1030

UKIP Colin Henson 430

Lab Katie Hill 381

Con Lucky Kumpeson 401

Lab Ben Miller 343

TUSC Ian Robertson 86

* Lib Dem Lorraine Rolfe 885 

* Lib Dem Thay Thayalan 836

6:31am

A candidate's alarm clock has just gone off on their mobile phone

6:30am

Here is our story on the long delays in counting: published about two minutes before the first results came in! 15 to go.

Frustration from candidates as counters snooze 

Surrey Comet:

5:32am

The word from the top is the count will continue until it is finished - no matter how long it takes.

The only scenario would have been if all wards had declared except one or two which could have been packed up and taken away to be counted another day.

5:15am

Some people appear to have gone including Simon James, Lesley and Trevor Heap, whose seats seemed under threat

5:10am

Same appears to be happening across south west London

Richmond has only had one ward result in so far

No results in Sutton

Croydon only one result

Is this an almighty cock-up? Or is it the result of an electoral trend of split voters who like mix-and-matching their politicians from different parties

5:10am

5:09am

4:59am

Microphone rustling - is this an announcement?

4:34am

No results so far

4:27am

Lib Dems suspect they have held St Mark's ward - leader Liz Green's seat

But they are fearful for Norbiton - backing up Tory claims that Labour may have won all three seats.

4:13am

Discontent at the length of time the count is taking

 

3:43am

Roger Hayes, a former Lib Dem leader of Kingston Council, says "it is possible" that Tories may have won 25 council seats - enough to oust his party.

He said: "It is going to be down to the split votes in a number of wards and I think it could be as few as 500 votes to decide who wins."

Asked about the suggestion Conservatives think they have won 25 council seats he said: "It is possible. But it will come down to the split votes and there has been no pattern to them whatsoever."

3:39am

3:31am

Predictions time: One Conservative has told us he thinks they have reached 25 councillors - enough to take control of the council.

That is based on the belief, from watching the piles of votes stacking up, that they have won all three places in each of the Beverley, Canbury and Alexandra wards.

He thinks Labour have won all three seats in Norbiton.

If he is right senior Lib Dems David Ryder-Mills, Penny Shelton and Simon James would lose their places on Kingston Council.

But if those predictions are right they will have to hold their other seats and avoid any upsets anywhere else in the borough.

Is he right? We'll find out

3:15am

3:13am

Directly opposite Surrey Comet HQ, votes from Berrylands are now also being counted. The candidates' nervous leaning-in to watch is being replicated across the hall.

3:11am

Turnout for the six wards being counted now was about 40 per cent, Kingston Council has confirmed.

One ward - we're not sure which - had a higher turnout than the others and pulled up the average figure.

3:01am

Returning officer Andrew Bessant says counters will begin work on the ballots from St Mark's Hill, Norbiton, Chessington South, Tolworth and Hook Rise, Coombe Vale and Coombe Hill.

2:51am

Conservative councillor Geoff Austin has been doing some sampling in his Canbury ward. 

Based on the last box that came out, he puts the Tories ahead in the block vote, but the split vote is even higher. 

"There's no pattern to the split vote," he said. 

"It's too early to call. I'm not completely delighted but I'm not inconsolable either."

2:44am

The actual count is still yet to start. A few mutterings claiming the fact local election and European election ballots were put in the same boxes has slowed up verification.

Apparently other boroughs used separate boxes.

 

2:36am

Over in neighbouring Richmond Council - run by the Tories - Lib Dem leader Stephen Knight says it is too close to call.

In Sutton Lib Dem leader of the council Ruth Dombey says: "It won't be a walkover."

2:21am

Former Tory leader and ex-parliamentary candidate Kevin Davis, a candidate in Old Malden, has given his view of the lie of the land.

He said: "Our strongholds are holding up somehow. We are relatively confident we will take places we have not before like Beverley.

"We are very positive about Coombe Vale and Canbury. Grove we are not sure. Berrylands and Surbiton Hill are pretty close. Looks like Old Malden is ours.

"Places like Norbiton will be tough."

2:15am

Lib Dem leader Liz Green has given her reaction to Ed Davey's comments.

He said he would be surprised if his party held the council.

She said: "I wouldn't be surprised if we held on. I also wouldn't be surprised if we lost. Kingston has always been very tight.

"I think there are wards that will be too close to call until we have gone through the split votes."

2:08am

We think two wards have been verified but there are still 14 more wards to go through

That all has to happen BEFORE the count can begin

1:57am

Labour have been doing well in by-elections over the past few years and were hoping to gain a seat back on the council after four years in the wilderness.

Tonight leader Laurie South said: "If we get anybody it will be Norbiton, it may be that we get some success in Grove."

1:47am

1:46am

1:41am

1:35am

Surrey Comet:

Ed Davey has been interviewed by the BBC and said the party needs to get its message over more loudly and more clearly

1:24am

Kingston's finance director Leigh Whitehouse is tweeting away

 

1:22am

In slightly more frivolous election news Ed Davey has moved to quash Labour rumours he was out campaigning wearing Lycra last week.

He said: "When it was a very hot day I wore shorts but I don't possess any Lycra."

1:14am

Lib Dem MP and cabinet minister Edward Davey says he would be surprised if his party hold the council.

He says: "I would be surprised if we held on but we have got to wait until votes are counted. It's too close to say but we went to this campaign with some difficult issues, let's be clear, the leader of the council committed a very serious crime and is in prison.

"We lose Beverley and I think we will lose the two remaining seats in Beverley."

1:05am

1:02am

Official turnout has not been released yet but both Lib Dems and Conservatives are talking about a 40 per cent turnout, including postal votes.

Four years ago, when the local elections were held on the same night as the general election, turnout was 69 per cent.

12:39am

Liberal Democrat Rosie Tatler, who runs the leader's office, admits the party is 'worried' about Chessington North.

The party has two councillors in the ward - alongside Conservative Andrew Day.

She said: "Worried about Chessington North, that's contentious because of the split votes and UKIP. It's all over the place.

"We are winning in a polling district in Grove but there are three districts all different sizes so we can't tell anything".

12:26am

A major unspoken factor in the election has been the Derek Osbourne effect.

The former Lib Dem leader was jailed for child pornography offences last October, with current leader Liz Green stepping in after he was arrested.

Politicians have played this down but has his arrest and conviction had an effect on voters?

In the Beverley by-election to replace him a Conservative candidate won. 

12:18am

Some Tories predicting the return of Labour to the council tonight. Their last candidate got voted out four years ago but they have been doing well in by-elections without winning any seats.

If they do win a seat it will most likely be in Norbiton.

12:14am

Lots of split votes - where people have voted for candidates from different parties - in Norbiton, Canbury and Chessington South.

Usually indicates a close race.

12:09am

12:07am

Former Rose Theatre artistic director Stephen Unwin says:

11:58pm

Lots of interest from all of the parties in Canbury, where, if you believe all the candidates, anything could happen.

Surrey Comet:

11:50pm

Lib Dem Simon James says judging by the stacks of postal votes Labour's Marian Freedman, Lib Dem Lesley Heap and Conservative Terry Payton - all candidates in previous by-elections whose names have become recognisable - are already ahead.

Lib Dem David Ryder Mills said Norbiton postal votes showed voters were split between the parties.

Today's votes have yet to be verified, stacked up or counted though so a long way to go.

11:35pm

11:33pm

Surrey Comet:

11:29pm

Lib Dem candidate Lesley Heap thinks her party will either win all three seats in Beverley ward in New Malden or none of them.

She said: "It's very close to call."

Fellow Lib Dem Shiraz Mirza in Chessington South says: "I'm feeling confident."

11:25pm

Conservative candidate Jack Cheetham is hoping to gain a seat in St Marks and overthrow the leader of the current administration councillor Liz Green.

He said:"I think we have really rattled them. If we have got half the people that said they would vote for us actually vote for us - then we will be in. 

"I'm quietly optimistic."

11:20pm

Another UKIP candidate, John Anderson, Canbury: "We are campaigning on the inefficiency of Kingston Council, the cosy two-party deal they've got, and the rising council tax."  

11:18pm

UKIP's Anthony Perham, standing in Alexandra, said: "Walking around the streets for the past two or three weeks, I honestly can't remember any nastiness at all. 

"There's only been positivity, and people have been very direct when I've asked if they're voting UKIP and said yes."

When asked about the rumour that his party may have won two seats, he said: "You're the second person to tell me that."

11:11pm

A rumour has already done the rounds that UKIP have won two seats including in Tolworth and Hook Rise.

UKIP candidate David Colin Henson said: "If I have done that you'll see me pass out later on".

Lib Dem Tolworth and Hook Rise councillor Vicki Harris said: "I take no notice of any speculation until those ballot papers are looked at and counted."

11:05pm

Lib Dem council leader Liz Green said she is tired already - and the night has only just begun.

She said: "It's just knackering. We were all up at about 5am or 6am. It becomes a long day."

Asked whether she was worried for her seat in St Mark's ward, she added: "They attacked my ward, they made no bones about it.

"They attacked our ward in 2010 as well."

10:58pm

10:57pm

Canbury candidate councillor Andrea Craig thinks her ward could be the decisive one.

She said: "It was not a normal day in Canbury today. Last time round everyone was very quiet about their support but this time it was tremendous support...if that turns into support.

"I would say that Canbury is a good indicator. If we can have all three in Canbury then we will have taken the council.

"But as we know elections are full of surprises. It's going to be difficult. We did have a very low turnout."

10:51pm

Labour's Chessington and Hook candidate Max Freedman thinks tongiht could see his party return to Guildhall after a four year hiatus. 

"We're feeling very happy, we fought a strong, positive campaign and set out a really good agenda," he said.  

"I hope all the candidates and supporters who put in the effort get the reward they deserve tonight.

"Historically we've done well in Norbiton, and we certainly hope to come back strong there. We've also got really excellent candidates in Grove and Beverley in particular, and we're hoping for a strong Labour team in the Guildhall bringing Labour values back to Kingston."

 

10:44pm

10:37pm

10:36pm

Tory hopeful Mary Clark has been recounting her first election victory in 2006: "In 06 I fell asleep and missed the count and Councillor Howard Jones phoned me up said 'you've been elected' and I said 'elected to what'.

Asked if she can get re-elected in Old Malden she said: "Why not. If we don't, it's a problem."

10:33pm

Lib Dem Surbiton Hill councillor Malcolm Self said: "My prediction is that Surbiton Hill will be very close. We've been getting good feedback on the doorstep.

"There's no point in worrying. Whatever happens I'm still going to be alive tomorrow."

10:28pm

10:26pm

Bit of free publicity for a rival media organisation

10:23pm

First non-prediction of the evening:

Conservative Chessington and North Hook councillor Andrew Day said: "I thought Fulham would avoid relegation so I can't predict anything."

10:16pm

TV crews here at the count too. ITV just did their first broadcast. A bigscreen TV in the cafe is showing activiity inside the main sports hall where the European election postal votes are being verified

10:00pm

Surrey Comet:

A voter enters the polling station at St Raphael's Church in Grove Ward, one of the most closely contested.

Returning officer Andrew Bessant said turnout today began slowly after polls opened at 7am, but picked up later in the day.

Polls have now closed.

8:40pm

By now the parties will be chasing up any supporters or potential supporters who haven't voted.

But they will also be weighing up the prospect of annoying people by door-knocking right up to 10pm.

One councillor apparently says something along the lines: "They have four years to forgive us"

8:38pm

Meanwhile a Green candidate is taking inspiration from the weather #kingstonvotes

8:35pm

A complaint to all parties today from one voter, but she still voted

8:34pm

Remember to tweet #kingstonvotes to join in the commentary and opinion on election night

8:25pm

Here's our run-down of all the political parties looking for your vote this year

Liberal Democrats + Conservative 

Labour 

UKIP

Green 

Trade Unionists and Socialists Against Cuts

Independent candidate Tim Dennen

The British National Party is standing a single candidate, David Child, in St James ward

8:23pm

Green candidate Ryan Coley had this to say

8:21pm

Meanwhile Kingston Labour has been tweeting a handy guide for voters - the polling card with the names they want you to put a cross by

8:19pm

Tory leader Howard Jones is not a Twitter man but the party's parliamentary candidate James Berry has been out and about today, braving the rain too

 

8:16pm

Council leader Liz Green has been quiet on Twitter today although she tweeted this early this morning

8:02pm

8:01pm

 
Here's where the action will take place tonight - the King's Centre in Chessington. 

7:52pm

The official final results of which party has the most councillors - and will run Kingston, Surbiton, Tolworth, New Malden and Chessington for the next four years - are not expected until about 5am.

7:50pm

We will bring you all the results in the Kingston Council election 2014, telling you who won and lost in each ward, who is looking forward to four years of council meetings, and who is going to be able to spend more time with the family

7:41pm

Have you voted yet? Polls are open until 10pm tonight

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7:27am Sat 24 May 14

Voice of Reason & U Know It says...

Brilliant, the Lib Dems have had their bottoms spanked and very well deserved it was. They let down the traditional left wing voter in this borough who normally vote Lib Dem to keep the tories out.

When the Lib Dems formed an alliance with the Conservatives (I.e. a party repugnant to all their previous voters with left views) they alienated a large part of their traditional support in the borough.

It is therefore supremely ironic and satisfying to those such as i seeking revenge for the Lib Dems actions that by voting Tory (sometimes one has to do disgusting things) we have brought their downfall

If the lib dems do not come out and apologise for the Con Dem pact before the general election i will probably vote Tory to get rid of Edward Davey.

If and when there is a possibility that the Lib Dems have learnt their lesson and respect the left wing views of a substantial amount of prospective voters in the borough/constituency then we may start voting for them and get rid of the disgusting Tories which no one in the Liberal or Labour tradition can bear
Brilliant, the Lib Dems have had their bottoms spanked and very well deserved it was. They let down the traditional left wing voter in this borough who normally vote Lib Dem to keep the tories out. When the Lib Dems formed an alliance with the Conservatives (I.e. a party repugnant to all their previous voters with left views) they alienated a large part of their traditional support in the borough. It is therefore supremely ironic and satisfying to those such as i seeking revenge for the Lib Dems actions that by voting Tory (sometimes one has to do disgusting things) we have brought their downfall If the lib dems do not come out and apologise for the Con Dem pact before the general election i will probably vote Tory to get rid of Edward Davey. If and when there is a possibility that the Lib Dems have learnt their lesson and respect the left wing views of a substantial amount of prospective voters in the borough/constituency then we may start voting for them and get rid of the disgusting Tories which no one in the Liberal or Labour tradition can bear Voice of Reason & U Know It
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11:58pm Sun 25 May 14

Dog whistle says...

Interesting to note that Davey now decides to mention the former local Lib Dem leading light, Osbourne,..I suppose someone has to take a measure for blame for the flogging so blaming the bloke in prison is a good start..basic politics I guess.
Interesting to note that Davey now decides to mention the former local Lib Dem leading light, Osbourne,..I suppose someone has to take a measure for blame for the flogging so blaming the bloke in prison is a good start..basic politics I guess. Dog whistle
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