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LIVE: Kingston Council count heads towards eight hour mark
Updated 9:12am Tuesday 27th May 2014 in News
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- Party has to hit 25 seats to guarantee win
- Con 28
- Lib Dems 17
- Lab 0
- UKIP 0
- TUSC 0
- Green 0
- Independent 0
- BNP 0
Just to recap:
Councillors were fuming at the length of time it took to count the votes with threats of an inquiry
So that brings the election count to an end.
Conservatives have 28 councillors
Lib Dems have 17
Three more seats are to be decided in Norbiton - with two likely to go to Labour.
After saying they might do Norbiton ward later, then that they were going to do it today, they have now decided to do Norbiton recount on Sunday
Surbiton Hill result: LIB DEM HOLD
* Lib Dem John Ayles 1454
Lab David Cooper 402
* Lib Dem Hilary Gander 1445
Lab Richard Heys 426
Con Peter Kelk 1301
Green Brian Mulley 410
Con Ronak Pandya 1147
# Lib Dem Malcolm Self 1323
Lab Anne Vase 403
UKIP Carol Ward 354
Con Alex Wright 1229
Some more results from earlier today:
Beverley ward: TORIES GAINED TWO SEATS
* Con Paul Bedforth 1311
UKIP Melena Collis 461
Lab Marian Freedman 838
Lib Dem Lesley Heap 880
Lib Dem Trevor Heap 777
Lib Dem Simon James 778
Lab Liz Meerabeau 714
* Con Raj Pandya 1046
* Con Terry Paton 1333
Lab Chris Priest 645
Green Chris Walker 552
Canbury ward: TORY HOLD
UKIP John Anderson 391
* Con Geoff Austin 1360
Green Ryan Coley 891
Lab Tony Cottrell 606
* Con Andrea Craig 1419
Ind Tim Dennen 188
Lib Dem Dan Falchikov 833
* Con David Glasspool 1241
Lib Dem Andrew King 809
Lib Dem Rebekah Moll 877
Green Charlie Redman 839
Green Tariq Shabeer 580
Lab Colin Startup 477
Lab Nisha Tailor 431
St James ' ward: TORY HOLD
BNP David Child 100
TUSC Paul Couchman 34
Lib Dem Jason Ha 729
UKIP Linda Holligan 386
Labour Gerry Jones 598
* Con Howard Jones 1250
Lab Eric Masters 485
Lab Mary Masters 494
Lib Dem Montse Medina 719
* Con Priyen Patel 1082
Green Richard Senger 212
* Con Ken Smith 1188
UKIP Bona Watson 361
Lib Dem Annette Wookey 696
Chessington South ward: LIB DEM HOLD
Con Michelle Akintoye 717
* Lib Dem Patricia Bamford 1131
Con Ryan Boxall 810
UKIP Coral Cottle 742
TUSC Louis Desbruslais 125
Lab John Dodwell 358
Lab David Griffin 376
UKIP Gina Healy 750
* Lib Dem Shiraz Mirza 1005
Lab Anthony Murray 326
* Lib Dem Rachel Reid 1024
Con Tania Symes 715
Old Malden ward: TORY HOLD
Lib Dem David Bamford 682
Lab William Bennett 480
* Con Mary Clark 1348
UKIP Nicholas Collis 573
* Con Kevin Davis 1233
* Con David Fraser 1461
Green Lucy Howard 328
Lab Ian Kellett 433
Lib Dem Mi Soon Kim 610
Lab George Pearson 495
Lib Dem Richard Thompson 155
Grove ward: TORY GAIN ONE SEAT
Con Adrian Amer 958
Lib Dem Shoiab Bajwa 888
* Lib Dem Stephen Brister 990
Green Tim Cobbett 384
* Con Phil Doyle 960
* Lib Dem Chrissie Hitchcock 1041
Green Alison Hood 404
Lab Tessa Kind 699
Lab Steve Mama 577
Lab Peter Roland 497
Green Tim Walker 366
Con Alex Ward 906
There are still votes to be counted - notably in Norbiton where Labour look to have at least two councillors.
There are also results to be uploaded.
The leader of Kingston's Liberal Democrats conceded defeat to the Conservatives this morning with votes still to be counted
Current total is Conservatives 15 councillors
Lib Dems 6
They need 25 councillors to guarantee a majority which would allow them to take over Kingston Council
Tudor ward: CON HOLD
Lib Dem Maha Alfakier 554
Lab Judith Cowley 511
* Con David Cunningham 1617
Lab Philip Gregg 455
Lib Dem Anne-Marie Haddon 698
Lib Dem Jac Lott 701
Green Chris Murphy 629
* Con Hugh Scantlebury 1437
Lab Bob Smy 561
* Frank Thompson 1378
Alexandra: TORY GAIN ONE SEAT
Lab Marilyn Corry 492
TUSC Kelvin Foote 78
* Con Ian George 1247
* Con Chris Hayes 1188
Lib Dem Neil Houston 937
* Con Richard Hudson 1263
Lab Niranjan Jayasundera 441
Lib Dem Haran Kailasapillai 991
Lab Paul May 485
UKIP Anthony Perham 521
Green Phil Smith 331
Lib Dem Andy Townsend 893
Berrylands: LIB DEMS LOSE SEAT
* Lib Dem Sushila Abraham 1279
Lib Dem Jack Chesterman 1194
Lab Toby Flux 425
Lab Lawrence Green 424
* Con Mike Head 1273
* Con Andy Johnson 1237
Green Martin Lake 426
Lab Amina Rasool 344
TUSC Italo Savastio 69
UKIP Paul Scargill 384
Lib Dem Bob Steed 1040
Con Emma Woods 1149
Chessington North and Hook: NO CHANGE
UKIP Vic Bellamy 718
* Lib Dem Clive Chase 975
* Con Andrew Day 988
Lab Max Freedman 358
Con Mike Gibson 811
Con Lizzy Harrall 767
Green Simon Jakeman 344
Lab Steve Kearney 416
Lab Amanda Stuart 321
* Lib Dem Margaret Thompson 1,080
Coombe Vale ward - CONSERVATIVE HOLD
Con Roy Arora 1629
Green Mona Ghobadi 323
Lib Dem Julie Haines 671
UKIP Jan Owen 350
Lab Sushil Pallen 531
Lab Ian Parker 605
Lab Geoffrey Parnell 480
Green Mariana Periklis 334
Green Mike Perry 313
* Con Julie Pickering 1689
* Con Cathy Roberts 1625
Lib Dem Phil Thompson 442
Coombe Hill ward - CONSERVATIVE HOLD
* Con Rowena Bass 1537
UKIP Tina Collis 313
Lib Dem Iris Grender
* Con Eric Humphrey 1458
Lab Edward Naylor 453
Lib Dem Jonathan Oates 314
Lab Roger Price 388
Lab Sally Richardson 457
Green Jean Vidler 344
Lib Dem John Waddleton 332
* Con Gaj Wallooppillai
Norbiton has gone to a recount. One vote between third and fourth.— @RossLogan82 23 May 2014
Candidates are drifting away - either to get supplies or to curl up in bed
Tolworth and Hook Rise ward - LIB DEM HOLD
Lab Tony Banks 433
Con Mike Briggs 554
Con Mavis Cracknell 515
* Lib Dem Vicki Harris 1030
UKIP Colin Henson 430
Lab Katie Hill 381
Con Lucky Kumpeson 401
Lab Ben Miller 343
TUSC Ian Robertson 86
* Lib Dem Lorraine Rolfe 885
* Lib Dem Thay Thayalan 836
A candidate's alarm clock has just gone off on their mobile phone
Here is our story on the long delays in counting: published about two minutes before the first results came in! 15 to go.
The word from the top is the count will continue until it is finished - no matter how long it takes.
The only scenario would have been if all wards had declared except one or two which could have been packed up and taken away to be counted another day.
Some people appear to have gone including Simon James, Lesley and Trevor Heap, whose seats seemed under threat
Same appears to be happening across south west London
Richmond has only had one ward result in so far
No results in Sutton
Croydon only one result
Is this an almighty cock-up? Or is it the result of an electoral trend of split voters who like mix-and-matching their politicians from different parties
Also, in Norbiton, there are three pairs of people handling split votes, but only two rulers. By rulers I mean centimetre rulers.— @RossLogan82 23 May 2014
The rumbles about what's taking so long are getting louder. Hearing reports of counters being shown how to handle split votes on the night.— @RossLogan82 23 May 2014
Microphone rustling - is this an announcement?
No results so far
Lib Dems suspect they have held St Mark's ward - leader Liz Green's seat
But they are fearful for Norbiton - backing up Tory claims that Labour may have won all three seats.
Discontent at the length of time the count is taking
Not happy with the #Kingston Count. We are the smallest borough and its 4am and we are still counting. In Grove another box has been found!— @MrsNoBags 23 May 2014
Meanwhile Wandsworth Council has been held by Labour
Roger Hayes, a former Lib Dem leader of Kingston Council, says "it is possible" that Tories may have won 25 council seats - enough to oust his party.
He said: "It is going to be down to the split votes in a number of wards and I think it could be as few as 500 votes to decide who wins."
Asked about the suggestion Conservatives think they have won 25 council seats he said: "It is possible. But it will come down to the split votes and there has been no pattern to them whatsoever."
They've found a new box of votes for Grove that is now being verified... Oh dear http://t.co/dU3v2Fc4VX— @surbitonnews 23 May 2014
Predictions time: One Conservative has told us he thinks they have reached 25 councillors - enough to take control of the council.
That is based on the belief, from watching the piles of votes stacking up, that they have won all three places in each of the Beverley, Canbury and Alexandra wards.
He thinks Labour have won all three seats in Norbiton.
If he is right senior Lib Dems David Ryder-Mills, Penny Shelton and Simon James would lose their places on Kingston Council.
But if those predictions are right they will have to hold their other seats and avoid any upsets anywhere else in the borough.
Is he right? We'll find out
Thimbles are in high demand tonight... #kingstonvotes http://t.co/D34nzcyEUO— @RBKingston 23 May 2014
Directly opposite Surrey Comet HQ, votes from Berrylands are now also being counted. The candidates' nervous leaning-in to watch is being replicated across the hall.
Turnout for the six wards being counted now was about 40 per cent, Kingston Council has confirmed.
One ward - we're not sure which - had a higher turnout than the others and pulled up the average figure.
Returning officer Andrew Bessant says counters will begin work on the ballots from St Mark's Hill, Norbiton, Chessington South, Tolworth and Hook Rise, Coombe Vale and Coombe Hill.
Conservative councillor Geoff Austin has been doing some sampling in his Canbury ward.
Based on the last box that came out, he puts the Tories ahead in the block vote, but the split vote is even higher.
"There's no pattern to the split vote," he said.
"It's too early to call. I'm not completely delighted but I'm not inconsolable either."
The actual count is still yet to start. A few mutterings claiming the fact local election and European election ballots were put in the same boxes has slowed up verification.
Apparently other boroughs used separate boxes.
Over in neighbouring Richmond Council - run by the Tories - Lib Dem leader Stephen Knight says it is too close to call.
In Sutton Lib Dem leader of the council Ruth Dombey says: "It won't be a walkover."
Former Tory leader and ex-parliamentary candidate Kevin Davis, a candidate in Old Malden, has given his view of the lie of the land.
He said: "Our strongholds are holding up somehow. We are relatively confident we will take places we have not before like Beverley.
"We are very positive about Coombe Vale and Canbury. Grove we are not sure. Berrylands and Surbiton Hill are pretty close. Looks like Old Malden is ours.
"Places like Norbiton will be tough."
Lib Dem leader Liz Green has given her reaction to Ed Davey's comments.
He said he would be surprised if his party held the council.
She said: "I wouldn't be surprised if we held on. I also wouldn't be surprised if we lost. Kingston has always been very tight.
"I think there are wards that will be too close to call until we have gone through the split votes."
We think two wards have been verified but there are still 14 more wards to go through
That all has to happen BEFORE the count can begin
Labour have been doing well in by-elections over the past few years and were hoping to gain a seat back on the council after four years in the wilderness.
Tonight leader Laurie South said: "If we get anybody it will be Norbiton, it may be that we get some success in Grove."
Kingston is one of only two Lib Dem boroughs in London. Losing Kingston would mean Sutton is only LD controlled borough in the capital— @OmarOakes 23 May 2014
@mateoriley I'm wondering if LD will be able to hold my own council Kingston it's massively marginal.— @LawrenceJHaslam 23 May 2014
Here's Labour candidate Steve Mama. We think he stole the Comet's spare seat. He's hoping to steal another in Grove. http://t.co/5PpSNsmlTc— @RossLogan82 23 May 2014
Ed Davey has been interviewed by the BBC and said the party needs to get its message over more loudly and more clearly
Kingston's finance director Leigh Whitehouse is tweeting away
Activity continues. Definitely the place to be tonight... #kingstonvotes http://t.co/fbhigNtd9h— @leigh73194 23 May 2014
In slightly more frivolous election news Ed Davey has moved to quash Labour rumours he was out campaigning wearing Lycra last week.
He said: "When it was a very hot day I wore shorts but I don't possess any Lycra."
Lib Dem MP and cabinet minister Edward Davey says he would be surprised if his party hold the council.
He says: "I would be surprised if we held on but we have got to wait until votes are counted. It's too close to say but we went to this campaign with some difficult issues, let's be clear, the leader of the council committed a very serious crime and is in prison.
"We lose Beverley and I think we will lose the two remaining seats in Beverley."
Ballots being tipped out over on the Berrylands desk (opposite Comet HQ) http://t.co/Qp7Ht9QeZW— @surbitonnews 23 May 2014
Official turnout has not been released yet but both Lib Dems and Conservatives are talking about a 40 per cent turnout, including postal votes.
Four years ago, when the local elections were held on the same night as the general election, turnout was 69 per cent.
Liberal Democrat Rosie Tatler, who runs the leader's office, admits the party is 'worried' about Chessington North.
The party has two councillors in the ward - alongside Conservative Andrew Day.
She said: "Worried about Chessington North, that's contentious because of the split votes and UKIP. It's all over the place.
"We are winning in a polling district in Grove but there are three districts all different sizes so we can't tell anything".
A major unspoken factor in the election has been the Derek Osbourne effect.
The former Lib Dem leader was jailed for child pornography offences last October, with current leader Liz Green stepping in after he was arrested.
Politicians have played this down but has his arrest and conviction had an effect on voters?
In the Beverley by-election to replace him a Conservative candidate won.
Some Tories predicting the return of Labour to the council tonight. Their last candidate got voted out four years ago but they have been doing well in by-elections without winning any seats.
If they do win a seat it will most likely be in Norbiton.
Lots of split votes - where people have voted for candidates from different parties - in Norbiton, Canbury and Chessington South.
Usually indicates a close race.
First batch of votes counted for Canbury - Greens seem to have a respectable showing— @surbitonnews 23 May 2014
@kingstonnewsed God help the Rose if the Tories win!— @RoseUnwin 23 May 2014
Lots of interest from all of the parties in Canbury, where, if you believe all the candidates, anything could happen.
Lib Dem Simon James says judging by the stacks of postal votes Labour's Marian Freedman, Lib Dem Lesley Heap and Conservative Terry Payton - all candidates in previous by-elections whose names have become recognisable - are already ahead.
Lib Dem David Ryder Mills said Norbiton postal votes showed voters were split between the parties.
Today's votes have yet to be verified, stacked up or counted though so a long way to go.
Lib Dem Kingston Council Leader Liz Green admits it's a close race with the Tories but that's nothing unusual in this borough #kingstonvotes— @jwskelton 22 May 2014
Lib Dem candidate Lesley Heap thinks her party will either win all three seats in Beverley ward in New Malden or none of them.
She said: "It's very close to call."
Fellow Lib Dem Shiraz Mirza in Chessington South says: "I'm feeling confident."
Conservative candidate Jack Cheetham is hoping to gain a seat in St Marks and overthrow the leader of the current administration councillor Liz Green.
He said:"I think we have really rattled them. If we have got half the people that said they would vote for us actually vote for us - then we will be in.
"I'm quietly optimistic."
Another UKIP candidate, John Anderson, Canbury: "We are campaigning on the inefficiency of Kingston Council, the cosy two-party deal they've got, and the rising council tax."
UKIP's Anthony Perham, standing in Alexandra, said: "Walking around the streets for the past two or three weeks, I honestly can't remember any nastiness at all.
"There's only been positivity, and people have been very direct when I've asked if they're voting UKIP and said yes."
When asked about the rumour that his party may have won two seats, he said: "You're the second person to tell me that."
A rumour has already done the rounds that UKIP have won two seats including in Tolworth and Hook Rise.
UKIP candidate David Colin Henson said: "If I have done that you'll see me pass out later on".
Lib Dem Tolworth and Hook Rise councillor Vicki Harris said: "I take no notice of any speculation until those ballot papers are looked at and counted."
Lib Dem council leader Liz Green said she is tired already - and the night has only just begun.
She said: "It's just knackering. We were all up at about 5am or 6am. It becomes a long day."
Asked whether she was worried for her seat in St Mark's ward, she added: "They attacked my ward, they made no bones about it.
"They attacked our ward in 2010 as well."
Council leader Liz Green chats with chief exec Bruce McDonald. "You didn't get up at 5am!" http://t.co/uBwOviqjiB— @surbitonnews 22 May 2014
Canbury candidate councillor Andrea Craig thinks her ward could be the decisive one.
She said: "It was not a normal day in Canbury today. Last time round everyone was very quiet about their support but this time it was tremendous support...if that turns into support.
"I would say that Canbury is a good indicator. If we can have all three in Canbury then we will have taken the council.
"But as we know elections are full of surprises. It's going to be difficult. We did have a very low turnout."
Labour's Chessington and Hook candidate Max Freedman thinks tongiht could see his party return to Guildhall after a four year hiatus.
"We're feeling very happy, we fought a strong, positive campaign and set out a really good agenda," he said.
"I hope all the candidates and supporters who put in the effort get the reward they deserve tonight.
"Historically we've done well in Norbiton, and we certainly hope to come back strong there. We've also got really excellent candidates in Grove and Beverley in particular, and we're hoping for a strong Labour team in the Guildhall bringing Labour values back to Kingston."
Votes coming in by the sack load http://t.co/ixUyvlWBHd— @surbitonnews 22 May 2014
Tory hopeful Mary Clark has been recounting her first election victory in 2006: "In 06 I fell asleep and missed the count and Councillor Howard Jones phoned me up said 'you've been elected' and I said 'elected to what'.
Asked if she can get re-elected in Old Malden she said: "Why not. If we don't, it's a problem."
Lib Dem Surbiton Hill councillor Malcolm Self said: "My prediction is that Surbiton Hill will be very close. We've been getting good feedback on the doorstep.
"There's no point in worrying. Whatever happens I'm still going to be alive tomorrow."
Here at the Kings Centre in Chessington for the big Kingston count! http://t.co/AHbAvS2Ay3— @Nazia_Comet 22 May 2014
ITV are now broadcasting live from the count. #kingstonvotes http://t.co/tnglpWvRoA— @RBKingston 22 May 2014
First non-prediction of the evening:
Conservative Chessington and North Hook councillor Andrew Day said: "I thought Fulham would avoid relegation so I can't predict anything."
TV crews here at the count too. ITV just did their first broadcast. A bigscreen TV in the cafe is showing activiity inside the main sports hall where the European election postal votes are being verified
A voter enters the polling station at St Raphael's Church in Grove Ward, one of the most closely contested.
Returning officer Andrew Bessant said turnout today began slowly after polls opened at 7am, but picked up later in the day.
Polls have now closed.
By now the parties will be chasing up any supporters or potential supporters who haven't voted.
But they will also be weighing up the prospect of annoying people by door-knocking right up to 10pm.
One councillor apparently says something along the lines: "They have four years to forgive us"
Meanwhile a Green candidate is taking inspiration from the weather #kingstonvotes
But can Lightning Strike twice in London today... #VoteGreenJakeman #Chessington #Hook #Kingston #Surbiton— @Shyman33 22 May 2014
I find it incredibly annoying that local Cllrs don't think my door is worth knocking on 'cos I rent... I still voted today! #kingstonvotes— @RJDaddow 22 May 2014
Remember to tweet #kingstonvotes to join in the commentary and opinion on election night
Here's our run-down of all the political parties looking for your vote this year
The British National Party is standing a single candidate, David Child, in St James ward
Green candidate Ryan Coley had this to say
It's election day! Your vote counts - use it, don't lose it! #VoteGreen2014 for a fairer, more sustainable future. http://t.co/eYTi1fDQUg— @GreenRyanColey 22 May 2014
Meanwhile Kingston Labour has been tweeting a handy guide for voters - the polling card with the names they want you to put a cross by
Grove ward voters: Our handy voting guide! http://t.co/Ozbi5Ynjps— @KBLabour 22 May 2014
Tory leader Howard Jones is not a Twitter man but the party's parliamentary candidate James Berry has been out and about today, braving the rain too
@surbitonnews @MayorofLondon we got a good deal on umbrellas from the hardware shop - @RBKConservative won't be be put off by rain today!— @votejamesberry 22 May 2014
Council leader Liz Green has been quiet on Twitter today although she tweeted this early this morning
Polling stations are now open for local Council and European elections in #Kingston borough. Here's to a busy but enjoyable day ahead.— @CllrLizGreen 22 May 2014
Setting up for the election count later. We'll be live tweeting with the hashtag #kingstonvotes throughout the night. http://t.co/F41jiAvpe3— @RBKingston 22 May 2014
The official final results of which party has the most councillors - and will run Kingston, Surbiton, Tolworth, New Malden and Chessington for the next four years - are not expected until about 5am.
We will bring you all the results in the Kingston Council election 2014, telling you who won and lost in each ward, who is looking forward to four years of council meetings, and who is going to be able to spend more time with the family
Have you voted yet? Polls are open until 10pm tonight
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