Lib Dems warn Boris over Chessington green belt suburb proposals

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Kingston Liberal Democrat politicians have called on the Mayor of London to oppose suggestions by business leaders for a new suburb in Chessington.

The recommendations, outlined by business group London First earlier this month, call for tens of thousands of new homes to be built on green belt land within London.

The new suburb would be served by train expansion through the planned Crossrail 2 scheme, the group said.

Edward Davey started a Facebook group today called: "Say no to 70,000 homes in Chessington".

Kingston Council leader Liz Green said: “We call on Boris [Johnson] to reject the recommendations that suggest building on our green belt.

“We fight to keep some green and open space within Kingston. We already don’t have that much.”

At the launch of London First’s report, Home Truths, deputy mayor for housing Richard Blakemore stated his support for its recommendations, which include calls for a review of whether green belt land could be used for housing.

But Mr Johnson told the Comet this week: “You don’t have to do this on green belt. My plan is to develop only on brownfield sites.

“Crossrail 2 will make a huge difference.”

Home Truths also recommended boroughs use compulsory purchase powers to reclaim land for housing.

Kingston and Surbiton MP Edward Davey said a new suburb would “put intolerable strain on our roads and local services.”

He added: “The authors of these reports can't have ever been to Chessington because if they had, they would have realised how daft and damaging these proposals would be.”

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12:30pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Tony from Surbiton says...

Ooh fancy that. It's coming up to an election and we have yet another Lib Dem scare story. Treating us like mugs again.
Ooh fancy that. It's coming up to an election and we have yet another Lib Dem scare story. Treating us like mugs again. Tony from Surbiton
  • Score: -13

12:43pm Wed 26 Mar 14

captain_shamrock says...

The couple of extra trains an hour that Crossrail 2* might bring to Chessington someday far in the future isn't enough transport infrastructure to justify the creation of a brand new suburb.

A new North-South link to Kingston town, such as a new tram, would be needed as well. Yes, we need new housing, but infrastructure needs to be provided as well. Without it, any new suburb would be poorly integrated with the rest of the borough's facilities.

As usual with Boris, his plans are poorly thought out hype and spin, with very little substance or detailed planning behind them.

* the latest is that any hopes for a start on CR2, even within the next decade, have been dashed, despite Boris' posturing. See this link

http://goo.gl/yniAh0


.
The couple of extra trains an hour that Crossrail 2* might bring to Chessington someday far in the future isn't enough transport infrastructure to justify the creation of a brand new suburb. A new North-South link to Kingston town, such as a new tram, would be needed as well. Yes, we need new housing, but infrastructure needs to be provided as well. Without it, any new suburb would be poorly integrated with the rest of the borough's facilities. As usual with Boris, his plans are poorly thought out hype and spin, with very little substance or detailed planning behind them. * the latest is that any hopes for a start on CR2, even within the next decade, have been dashed, despite Boris' posturing. See this link http://goo.gl/yniAh0 . captain_shamrock
  • Score: 18

12:57pm Wed 26 Mar 14

chessingtonman says...

i agree with this it will put chessington back on the map and not keep chessington related to either CWO or a industrial park!!! I AGREE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT
i agree with this it will put chessington back on the map and not keep chessington related to either CWO or a industrial park!!! I AGREE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT chessingtonman
  • Score: -31

1:00pm Wed 26 Mar 14

captain_shamrock says...

These Tory plans are real madness.

Just look at the following map that shows the PTAL* scores for Chessington and the south of the borough. Some parts have such poor public transport infrastructure, that they don't even register on the scorechart. That's how bad the infrastructure is down here.

If it's bad enough now, just how inadequate would it be under these Tory plans? Adding a couple of trains an hour to Chessington at some point in 20 years time is nowhere near adequate.

Map showing just how bad the transport infrastructure is: http://goo.gl/rKWfu1


To sacrifice our green belt to build vast Barrat estates, in a souless island, disconnected from the rest of our borough, is no trade-off. To me, this smacks of yet another behind closed doors shady deal between the Tories and their big housebuilding company donors.

*PTAL - Public Transport Accessibility Level
These Tory plans are real madness. Just look at the following map that shows the PTAL* scores for Chessington and the south of the borough. Some parts have such poor public transport infrastructure, that they don't even register on the scorechart. That's how bad the infrastructure is down here. If it's bad enough now, just how inadequate would it be under these Tory plans? Adding a couple of trains an hour to Chessington at some point in 20 years time is nowhere near adequate. Map showing just how bad the transport infrastructure is: http://goo.gl/rKWfu1 To sacrifice our green belt to build vast Barrat estates, in a souless island, disconnected from the rest of our borough, is no trade-off. To me, this smacks of yet another behind closed doors shady deal between the Tories and their big housebuilding company donors. *PTAL - Public Transport Accessibility Level captain_shamrock
  • Score: 20

1:07pm Wed 26 Mar 14

chessingtonman says...

its brown belt land owned by the council!!!
its brown belt land owned by the council!!! chessingtonman
  • Score: -4

1:15pm Wed 26 Mar 14

epsomlass says...

Absolutely ridiculous! the area cannot cope with the current amount of traffic let alone with another 70,000 more! As with other developments in the Surrey area these things get passed by government and the area suffers, road deteriorate (as the bigger developers are not forced to comply with requirements to repair roads so again at road payers expense I should know as I am trying to resolve an issue 2 years after one was built near me but had been turned down by the Council) and commuting to work will take longer. Boris I am ashamed at you for allowing such a huge development to go ahead! You need to pick a brown belt site that can be developed and create another village - why pick a site that is already bursting at the seems?
Absolutely ridiculous! the area cannot cope with the current amount of traffic let alone with another 70,000 more! As with other developments in the Surrey area these things get passed by government and the area suffers, road deteriorate (as the bigger developers are not forced to comply with requirements to repair roads so again at road payers expense I should know as I am trying to resolve an issue 2 years after one was built near me but had been turned down by the Council) and commuting to work will take longer. Boris I am ashamed at you for allowing such a huge development to go ahead! You need to pick a brown belt site that can be developed and create another village - why pick a site that is already bursting at the seems? epsomlass
  • Score: 29

2:01pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Tony from Surbiton says...

captain_shamrock wrote:
Bloody hell.

2 minutes after writing the above, I've just been told that these plans are for 70,000 - SEVENTY THOUSAND new homes in Chessington.

The plans have already been approved by Boris' Conservative team in London, but have been kept hush-hush by Kingston Conservatives. I wonder why.
Haha - captain_shamrock is shocked to find out these plans are for SEVENTY THOUSAND homes!!!!

He must have forgotten the number they made up at their Lib Dem Dirty Tricks Campaign meeting.

I wonder if this chap had anything to do with it?

http://www.surreycom
et.co.uk/news/kingst
on/11009437.Liberal_
Democrat_campaig/
[quote][p][bold]captain_shamrock[/bold] wrote: Bloody hell. 2 minutes after writing the above, I've just been told that these plans are for 70,000 - SEVENTY THOUSAND new homes in Chessington. The plans have already been approved by Boris' Conservative team in London, but have been kept hush-hush by Kingston Conservatives. I wonder why.[/p][/quote]Haha - captain_shamrock is shocked to find out these plans are for SEVENTY THOUSAND homes!!!! He must have forgotten the number they made up at their Lib Dem Dirty Tricks Campaign meeting. I wonder if this chap had anything to do with it? http://www.surreycom et.co.uk/news/kingst on/11009437.Liberal_ Democrat_campaig/ Tony from Surbiton
  • Score: -8

2:20pm Wed 26 Mar 14

captain_shamrock says...

Tony from Surbiton,

why have the Conservative's kept us in the dark about these plans when they have already been APPROVED by Boris and the rest of the London Conservative team WITHOUT telling Kingston voters or letting us decide?

Kingston Conservatives spout on about localism, but they conveniently forget its meaning when the Tory party's big Houseco donors start flashing their chequebooks again.

No doubt, given recent history, Boris will use his special powers to create a development corporation for this developmnet, directly accountable to Boris alone, BY-PASSING the views of local residents who will be powerless to object.

We'll have no say over the development.
We'll get no Section 106 payements for infrastructure to pay for things like parks, schools, transport and roads. The Tory big business donors will pocket the profits instead.

Our greenbelt will get trashed, and we'll spend the next 50 years paying to put in the public infrastructure that the Tory's developer frends somehow get off the hook from paying.

Same old Tories. The party of the rich, selfish and crooked, run for the benefit of the rich, selfish and crooked. And to hell with the majority of the population. Let's hope Boris and the rest of you don't get away with it.

.
Tony from Surbiton, why have the Conservative's kept us in the dark about these plans when they have already been APPROVED by Boris and the rest of the London Conservative team WITHOUT telling Kingston voters or letting us decide? Kingston Conservatives spout on about localism, but they conveniently forget its meaning when the Tory party's big Houseco donors start flashing their chequebooks again. No doubt, given recent history, Boris will use his special powers to create a development corporation for this developmnet, directly accountable to Boris alone, BY-PASSING the views of local residents who will be powerless to object. We'll have no say over the development. We'll get no Section 106 payements for infrastructure to pay for things like parks, schools, transport and roads. The Tory big business donors will pocket the profits instead. Our greenbelt will get trashed, and we'll spend the next 50 years paying to put in the public infrastructure that the Tory's developer frends somehow get off the hook from paying. Same old Tories. The party of the rich, selfish and crooked, run for the benefit of the rich, selfish and crooked. And to hell with the majority of the population. Let's hope Boris and the rest of you don't get away with it. . captain_shamrock
  • Score: 23

2:21pm Wed 26 Mar 14

EwellMan says...

Crazy......check out home many conservative MP's and councillors have interests in Building companies.....its staggering.

Area cant cope now. Happy for Brown belt homes but as long as the builder invests in transport, schools, hospitals, doctors, dentists, roads etc. Not going to happen!!!!
Crazy......check out home many conservative MP's and councillors have interests in Building companies.....its staggering. Area cant cope now. Happy for Brown belt homes but as long as the builder invests in transport, schools, hospitals, doctors, dentists, roads etc. Not going to happen!!!! EwellMan
  • Score: 25

2:51pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Tony from Surbiton says...

But Mr Johnson told the Comet this week: “You don’t have to do this on green belt. My plan is to develop only on brownfield sites.
But Mr Johnson told the Comet this week: “You don’t have to do this on green belt. My plan is to develop only on brownfield sites. Tony from Surbiton
  • Score: -4

3:12pm Wed 26 Mar 14

captain_shamrock says...

Tony from Surbiton,

from the report above (did you read it??):

"At the launch of London First’s report, Home Truths, deputy mayor for housing Richard Blakemore STATED HIS SUPPORT for its recommendations, which INCLUDE CALLS FOR A REVIEW OF WHETHER GREEN BELT LAND could be used for housing."

If the Conservatives genuinely wanted to leave the Green Belt alone, why have they SUPPORTED a review to facilitate building housing on it?

Surely, if they really wanted to leave the Green Belt alone, they wouldn't have had any need for any such review. Pretty obvious what the Conservative and their HouseCo donor's intentions are.

The report has been endorsed by the Conservative deputy mayor of London.

I'm still waiting for an answer to my question to you and the other Kingston Conservatives:

Why have the Conservative's kept us in the dark about these plans when they have already been APPROVED by Boris and the rest of the London Conservative team WITHOUT telling Kingston voters or letting us decide?
Tony from Surbiton, from the report above (did you read it??): "At the launch of London First’s report, Home Truths, [Conservative] deputy mayor for housing Richard Blakemore STATED HIS SUPPORT for its recommendations, which INCLUDE CALLS FOR A REVIEW OF WHETHER GREEN BELT LAND could be used for housing." If the Conservatives genuinely wanted to leave the Green Belt alone, why have they SUPPORTED a review to facilitate building housing on it? Surely, if they really wanted to leave the Green Belt alone, they wouldn't have had any need for any such review. Pretty obvious what the Conservative and their HouseCo donor's intentions are. The report has been endorsed by the Conservative deputy mayor of London. I'm still waiting for an answer to my question to you and the other Kingston Conservatives: Why have the Conservative's kept us in the dark about these plans when they have already been APPROVED by Boris and the rest of the London Conservative team WITHOUT telling Kingston voters or letting us decide? captain_shamrock
  • Score: 27

6:54pm Wed 26 Mar 14

ticktock says...

ONLY 70,000

YOUR HAVING A LAUGH THEY CANT EVEN DO THE BLOODY POTHOLES

I THINK ITS TIME TO VOTE WITH MY FEET ..

also they are going to turned 243 into a car park lol
ONLY 70,000 YOUR HAVING A LAUGH THEY CANT EVEN DO THE BLOODY POTHOLES I THINK ITS TIME TO VOTE WITH MY FEET .. also they are going to turned 243 into a car park lol ticktock
  • Score: 19

1:42pm Thu 27 Mar 14

DB says...

There is no reason to suddenly build 70,000 houses in this location. It seems they are trying to say that Crossrail 2 will bring more rail capacity to this area, but I have yet to see any evidence that it will.

Crossrail 2 is a new piece of infrastructure that starts at Wimbledon and links up with the existing lines that South West Trains use to get further south than that. South West Trains already bemoan a lack of capacity on these lines, so how is the arrival of Crossrail 2 suddenly going to increase that same capacity?

If anything it will make things worse as two train companies are going to have to coordinate their use of the same lines!

The only possible benefit for people that live in this area is that they will be able to choose to go directly to other central London destinations rather than just Waterloo. The trains will be just as crowded, even if they don't build any new homes to 'take advantage' of Crossrail 2.

These false rumours of extra capacity are just likely to attract even more people to an area that is already 30 years behind in demand for rail and other infrastructure.
There is no reason to suddenly build 70,000 houses in this location. It seems they are trying to say that Crossrail 2 will bring more rail capacity to this area, but I have yet to see any evidence that it will. Crossrail 2 is a new piece of infrastructure that starts at Wimbledon and links up with the existing lines that South West Trains use to get further south than that. South West Trains already bemoan a lack of capacity on these lines, so how is the arrival of Crossrail 2 suddenly going to increase that same capacity? If anything it will make things worse as two train companies are going to have to coordinate their use of the same lines! The only possible benefit for people that live in this area is that they will be able to choose to go directly to other central London destinations rather than just Waterloo. The trains will be just as crowded, even if they don't build any new homes to 'take advantage' of Crossrail 2. These false rumours of extra capacity are just likely to attract even more people to an area that is already 30 years behind in demand for rail and other infrastructure. DB
  • Score: 22

2:04pm Thu 27 Mar 14

captain_shamrock says...

DB wrote:
There is no reason to suddenly build 70,000 houses in this location. It seems they are trying to say that Crossrail 2 will bring more rail capacity to this area, but I have yet to see any evidence that it will.

Crossrail 2 is a new piece of infrastructure that starts at Wimbledon and links up with the existing lines that South West Trains use to get further south than that. South West Trains already bemoan a lack of capacity on these lines, so how is the arrival of Crossrail 2 suddenly going to increase that same capacity?

If anything it will make things worse as two train companies are going to have to coordinate their use of the same lines!

The only possible benefit for people that live in this area is that they will be able to choose to go directly to other central London destinations rather than just Waterloo. The trains will be just as crowded, even if they don't build any new homes to 'take advantage' of Crossrail 2.

These false rumours of extra capacity are just likely to attract even more people to an area that is already 30 years behind in demand for rail and other infrastructure.
DB,

Couldn't agree more.

Crossrail 2 will only deliver a couple of trains per hour to Chessington South. Boris Johnson describes that as "a game changer".

It's not.

70, 000 homes will deliver around 150,000 people, ie 90% of Kingston borough's current population. If Boris and the rest of Conservative crew try to dump that many people onto our greenbelt, it will be an instant slum.

In many ways, I think the Conservative's are mimicking Paris, where the only the rich live in the centre, and the poor are dumped in high density sink estates around the Parisian periphery, with non-existent infrastructure and massive social problems.

Food for thought in this economist article:

http://goo.gl/zfeSM3


.
[quote][p][bold]DB[/bold] wrote: There is no reason to suddenly build 70,000 houses in this location. It seems they are trying to say that Crossrail 2 will bring more rail capacity to this area, but I have yet to see any evidence that it will. Crossrail 2 is a new piece of infrastructure that starts at Wimbledon and links up with the existing lines that South West Trains use to get further south than that. South West Trains already bemoan a lack of capacity on these lines, so how is the arrival of Crossrail 2 suddenly going to increase that same capacity? If anything it will make things worse as two train companies are going to have to coordinate their use of the same lines! The only possible benefit for people that live in this area is that they will be able to choose to go directly to other central London destinations rather than just Waterloo. The trains will be just as crowded, even if they don't build any new homes to 'take advantage' of Crossrail 2. These false rumours of extra capacity are just likely to attract even more people to an area that is already 30 years behind in demand for rail and other infrastructure.[/p][/quote]DB, Couldn't agree more. Crossrail 2 will only deliver a couple of trains per hour to Chessington South. Boris Johnson describes that as "a game changer". It's not. 70, 000 homes will deliver around 150,000 people, ie 90% of Kingston borough's current population. If Boris and the rest of Conservative crew try to dump that many people onto our greenbelt, it will be an instant slum. In many ways, I think the Conservative's are mimicking Paris, where the only the rich live in the centre, and the poor are dumped in high density sink estates around the Parisian periphery, with non-existent infrastructure and massive social problems. Food for thought in this economist article: http://goo.gl/zfeSM3 . captain_shamrock
  • Score: 23

10:59am Fri 28 Mar 14

mrsjanerace says...

For those concerned about proposed building on the Green Belt in Epsom please sign this petition. It is very quick and easy to do. Thank you! http://www.petition.
co.uk/save-epsoms-gr
een-belt/
For those concerned about proposed building on the Green Belt in Epsom please sign this petition. It is very quick and easy to do. Thank you! http://www.petition. co.uk/save-epsoms-gr een-belt/ mrsjanerace
  • Score: -7

11:27am Fri 28 Mar 14

captain_shamrock says...

mrsjanerace wrote:
For those concerned about proposed building on the Green Belt in Epsom please sign this petition. It is very quick and easy to do. Thank you! http://www.petition.

co.uk/save-epsoms-gr

een-belt/
What a joke - Epsom's Conservatives petitioning against London Conservative's greenbelt plans that Kingston's Conservatives deny exist.

You couldn't make it up. What a bunch of arrogant toffs. They really must think the public (or plebs as they call us) are stupid.

I know what petition I'll be signing - the one on election day that stops the Tories and their big housebuilding company donors.
[quote][p][bold]mrsjanerace[/bold] wrote: For those concerned about proposed building on the Green Belt in Epsom please sign this petition. It is very quick and easy to do. Thank you! http://www.petition. co.uk/save-epsoms-gr een-belt/[/p][/quote]What a joke - Epsom's Conservatives petitioning against London Conservative's greenbelt plans that Kingston's Conservatives deny exist. You couldn't make it up. What a bunch of arrogant toffs. They really must think the public (or plebs as they call us) are stupid. I know what petition I'll be signing - the one on election day that stops the Tories and their big housebuilding company donors. captain_shamrock
  • Score: 17

11:59am Fri 28 Mar 14

captain_shamrock says...

If you want to stop this outrageous and inappropriate trashing of our greenbelt, there's no point signing a Tory petition against these Tory plans - it'll be a waste of time.

Remember, the Conservative deputy mayor for housing has strongly supported these recommendations for a review of whether green belt land could be used for housing.

If the Tories wanted to stop this, all they need to do is withdraw their support for the "Home Truths" review that seeks to allow massive building by the Tories biggest donors.

Instead, sign the petition created by the Lib Dems, the party that exposed this plot:

Petition link: http://goo.gl/mxzUxS



.
If you want to stop this outrageous and inappropriate trashing of our greenbelt, there's no point signing a Tory petition against these Tory plans - it'll be a waste of time. Remember, the Conservative deputy mayor for housing has strongly supported these recommendations for a review of whether green belt land could be used for housing. If the Tories wanted to stop this, all they need to do is withdraw their support for the "Home Truths" review that seeks to allow massive building by the Tories biggest donors. Instead, sign the petition created by the Lib Dems, the party that exposed this plot: Petition link: http://goo.gl/mxzUxS . captain_shamrock
  • Score: 13

3:49pm Fri 28 Mar 14

OldBaloney says...

"You must be the change you wish to see in the World" Mahatma Ghandi


RBK voters have that power on the 22 May.


Let's do to the LibDems in Chessington what Bus Pass Elvis did to them in Nottingham.
"You must be the change you wish to see in the World" Mahatma Ghandi RBK voters have that power on the 22 May. Let's do to the LibDems in Chessington what Bus Pass Elvis did to them in Nottingham. OldBaloney
  • Score: -6

4:09pm Fri 28 Mar 14

captain_shamrock says...

Plans backed by the Conservative Deputy Mayor for Housing at City Hall propose to build up to 70,000 homes in Chessington and create a new London ‘suburb’ across the green belt.

The plans were drawn up by London First, a London pressure group made up of big businesses, including large property firms like Westfield & Berkley Homes and include proposals for new powers for the Mayor to impose developments on local communities.

The plans would see the end of large swathes of Chessington Green Belt and necessitate a whole new infrastructure of shops, supermarkets and transport that could swamp the Borough with more traffic.

The Deputy Mayor for Housing has backed the plans. To find out more read the full Home Truths report and the earlier Funding Crossrail 2 report from London First, which detail the plans.

Petition link: http://goo.gl/mxzUxS


.
Plans backed by the Conservative Deputy Mayor for Housing at City Hall propose to build up to 70,000 homes in Chessington and create a new London ‘suburb’ across the green belt. The plans were drawn up by London First, a London pressure group made up of big businesses, including large property firms like Westfield & Berkley Homes and include proposals for new powers for the Mayor to impose developments on local communities. The plans would see the end of large swathes of Chessington Green Belt and necessitate a whole new infrastructure of shops, supermarkets and transport that could swamp the Borough with more traffic. The Deputy Mayor for Housing has backed the plans. To find out more read the full Home Truths report and the earlier Funding Crossrail 2 report from London First, which detail the plans. Petition link: http://goo.gl/mxzUxS . captain_shamrock
  • Score: 9

4:17pm Fri 28 Mar 14

OldBaloney says...

captain_shamrock wrote:
Plans backed by the Conservative Deputy Mayor for Housing at City Hall propose to build up to 70,000 homes in Chessington and create a new London ‘suburb’ across the green belt.

The plans were drawn up by London First, a London pressure group made up of big businesses, including large property firms like Westfield & Berkley Homes and include proposals for new powers for the Mayor to impose developments on local communities.

The plans would see the end of large swathes of Chessington Green Belt and necessitate a whole new infrastructure of shops, supermarkets and transport that could swamp the Borough with more traffic.

The Deputy Mayor for Housing has backed the plans. To find out more read the full Home Truths report and the earlier Funding Crossrail 2 report from London First, which detail the plans.

Petition link: http://goo.gl/mxzUxS



.
The Mayor of London confirms in a public meeting that the LibDem scare-mongering is an outright lie, 'coincidentally' timed for the local elections.

http://bit.ly/O5xpad


Remember the old LibDem motto,' If at first you don't deceive lie, lie again'.
[quote][p][bold]captain_shamrock[/bold] wrote: Plans backed by the Conservative Deputy Mayor for Housing at City Hall propose to build up to 70,000 homes in Chessington and create a new London ‘suburb’ across the green belt. The plans were drawn up by London First, a London pressure group made up of big businesses, including large property firms like Westfield & Berkley Homes and include proposals for new powers for the Mayor to impose developments on local communities. The plans would see the end of large swathes of Chessington Green Belt and necessitate a whole new infrastructure of shops, supermarkets and transport that could swamp the Borough with more traffic. The Deputy Mayor for Housing has backed the plans. To find out more read the full Home Truths report and the earlier Funding Crossrail 2 report from London First, which detail the plans. Petition link: http://goo.gl/mxzUxS .[/p][/quote]The Mayor of London confirms in a public meeting that the LibDem scare-mongering is an outright lie, 'coincidentally' timed for the local elections. http://bit.ly/O5xpad Remember the old LibDem motto,' If at first you don't deceive lie, lie again'. OldBaloney
  • Score: -9

4:33pm Fri 28 Mar 14

captain_shamrock says...

But the Conservatives STILL support the London First "Home Truths" report that calls for the building ban on our Greenbelt to be reviewed.

Until the Conservatives publicly DROP THEIR SUPPORT for this report, it is clearly they who are the liars.

In the battle of interests of Kingston residents versus the Conservative's big housebuilding donors, the Conservative party will always favour those that write them the fat cheques.

There's still time before the election for the Conservatives to drop their support for the "Home Truths" report. It will be a great victory for Kingston, the Greenbelt, and the Lib Dems if they do.

.
But the Conservatives STILL support the London First "Home Truths" report that calls for the building ban on our Greenbelt to be reviewed. Until the Conservatives publicly DROP THEIR SUPPORT for this report, it is clearly they who are the liars. In the battle of interests of Kingston residents versus the Conservative's big housebuilding donors, the Conservative party will always favour those that write them the fat cheques. There's still time before the election for the Conservatives to drop their support for the "Home Truths" report. It will be a great victory for Kingston, the Greenbelt, and the Lib Dems if they do. . captain_shamrock
  • Score: 12

4:40pm Fri 28 Mar 14

OldBaloney says...

captain_shamrock wrote:
But the Conservatives STILL support the London First "Home Truths" report that calls for the building ban on our Greenbelt to be reviewed.

Until the Conservatives publicly DROP THEIR SUPPORT for this report, it is clearly they who are the liars.

In the battle of interests of Kingston residents versus the Conservative's big housebuilding donors, the Conservative party will always favour those that write them the fat cheques.

There's still time before the election for the Conservatives to drop their support for the "Home Truths" report. It will be a great victory for Kingston, the Greenbelt, and the Lib Dems if they do.

.
'If at first you don't deceive lie, lie again'.

http://bit.ly/O5xpad
[quote][p][bold]captain_shamrock[/bold] wrote: But the Conservatives STILL support the London First "Home Truths" report that calls for the building ban on our Greenbelt to be reviewed. Until the Conservatives publicly DROP THEIR SUPPORT for this report, it is clearly they who are the liars. In the battle of interests of Kingston residents versus the Conservative's big housebuilding donors, the Conservative party will always favour those that write them the fat cheques. There's still time before the election for the Conservatives to drop their support for the "Home Truths" report. It will be a great victory for Kingston, the Greenbelt, and the Lib Dems if they do. .[/p][/quote]'If at first you don't deceive lie, lie again'. http://bit.ly/O5xpad OldBaloney
  • Score: -7

10:23am Sat 29 Mar 14

mrsjanerace says...

captain_shamrock wrote:
mrsjanerace wrote:
For those concerned about proposed building on the Green Belt in Epsom please sign this petition. It is very quick and easy to do. Thank you! http://www.petition.


co.uk/save-epsoms-gr


een-belt/
What a joke - Epsom's Conservatives petitioning against London Conservative's greenbelt plans that Kingston's Conservatives deny exist.

You couldn't make it up. What a bunch of arrogant toffs. They really must think the public (or plebs as they call us) are stupid.

I know what petition I'll be signing - the one on election day that stops the Tories and their big housebuilding company donors.
Captain Shamrock, (or whoever you are!!)

Please don't call me a toff when you don't know me. I have never called anyone a pleb so please don't commit libel by saying so. I would ask Captain Shamrock to also stop trolling me on twitter! If you don't want to sign the petition asking the Council to protect the Green Belt then don't sign it!

For everyone else who is keen to preserve the countryside for future generations, do, please, consider signing the petition from the link below. It will only take a second and the more people who sign it, the more the council have to sit up and listen! Thank you.

http://www.petition.
co.uk/save-epsoms-gr
een-belt/
[quote][p][bold]captain_shamrock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrsjanerace[/bold] wrote: For those concerned about proposed building on the Green Belt in Epsom please sign this petition. It is very quick and easy to do. Thank you! http://www.petition. co.uk/save-epsoms-gr een-belt/[/p][/quote]What a joke - Epsom's Conservatives petitioning against London Conservative's greenbelt plans that Kingston's Conservatives deny exist. You couldn't make it up. What a bunch of arrogant toffs. They really must think the public (or plebs as they call us) are stupid. I know what petition I'll be signing - the one on election day that stops the Tories and their big housebuilding company donors.[/p][/quote]Captain Shamrock, (or whoever you are!!) Please don't call me a toff when you don't know me. I have never called anyone a pleb so please don't commit libel by saying so. I would ask Captain Shamrock to also stop trolling me on twitter! If you don't want to sign the petition asking the Council to protect the Green Belt then don't sign it! For everyone else who is keen to preserve the countryside for future generations, do, please, consider signing the petition from the link below. It will only take a second and the more people who sign it, the more the council have to sit up and listen! Thank you. http://www.petition. co.uk/save-epsoms-gr een-belt/ mrsjanerace
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