Kingston dishes out nearly £5m in parking fines - fourth biggest total in UK

Fines: double yellows

Fines: double yellows

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Kingston Council handed out more than 90,000 parking fines in 2013, raking in nearly £5m, a freedom of information request showed.

The figures were revealed by insurers Churchill.

Kingston’s £4,856,982 revenue put it fourth out of 187 councils from across the UK which supplied figures, behind Haringey, Barnet and Westminster.


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12:48pm Mon 14 Apr 14

reesmf says...

Excellent news for all Community Charge payers! And if you don't want to pay a parking fine then simply don't park where you are not meant to.
Excellent news for all Community Charge payers! And if you don't want to pay a parking fine then simply don't park where you are not meant to. reesmf
  • Score: 10

12:52pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Happy59 says...

Parking fines, yellow box and bus lanes infringements Kingston council is awash with money from these stealth taxes but still we have one of the highest council tax rates in the country. Makes you wonder what they spend it all on.
Parking fines, yellow box and bus lanes infringements Kingston council is awash with money from these stealth taxes but still we have one of the highest council tax rates in the country. Makes you wonder what they spend it all on. Happy59
  • Score: 6

12:57pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Mind the gap says...

Don't want a fine, then don't park illegally.
Don't want a fine, then don't park illegally. Mind the gap
  • Score: 13

1:35pm Mon 14 Apr 14

R Batson says...

Whilst I agree if one parks illegally and gets caught, it is their own fault generally, annoying as that can be sometimes. I don't see how this benefits Community charge payers. That appears to assume the Council has a policy to charge motorists to save community charge payers, is that true? And if true, not at all sure the Community Charge payers would be happy with that since it is likely that most of them are vehicle owner/users.

There doesn't appear to be any evidence that the motoring fines has in fact reduced the Community Charge. The Government Coalition has offered for a number of years now to fund a freeze of Kingston's Council's community charge but they have refused to accept it preferring instead to raise it. It is only this year, a local Council election year that this Council accepted the Government Coalition funds to freeze Council Tax and did freeze it. Surely it didn't freeze Council tax because of what might be an arguably zealous action by the Council on Motorists to fine them whenever they could as opposed to sometimes simply giving a verbal warning re the motorists actions, in order to reduce the Council community charge. Could I be wrong here and that is what they did do.
Whilst I agree if one parks illegally and gets caught, it is their own fault generally, annoying as that can be sometimes. I don't see how this benefits Community charge payers. That appears to assume the Council has a policy to charge motorists to save community charge payers, is that true? And if true, not at all sure the Community Charge payers would be happy with that since it is likely that most of them are vehicle owner/users. There doesn't appear to be any evidence that the motoring fines has in fact reduced the Community Charge. The Government Coalition has offered for a number of years now to fund a freeze of Kingston's Council's community charge but they have refused to accept it preferring instead to raise it. It is only this year, a local Council election year that this Council accepted the Government Coalition funds to freeze Council Tax and did freeze it. Surely it didn't freeze Council tax because of what might be an arguably zealous action by the Council on Motorists to fine them whenever they could as opposed to sometimes simply giving a verbal warning re the motorists actions, in order to reduce the Council community charge. Could I be wrong here and that is what they did do. R Batson
  • Score: 0

1:48pm Mon 14 Apr 14

kingstonpaul says...

Councils now lead the way in the fields of entrapment and enforcement, having lost sight of their commitment to rate payers. These days we're becoming criminalsised simply for being human. And as a driver, you're constantly distracted by the tripwires of confusing bus lanes, confusing box junctions, and confusing parking regs, a constant barrage of road markings and signage that means less time spent driving carefully, more time avoiding getting fined. It's got far too much. Indeed I wonder how many road deaths are attributable to these distractions?
Councils now lead the way in the fields of entrapment and enforcement, having lost sight of their commitment to rate payers. These days we're becoming criminalsised simply for being human. And as a driver, you're constantly distracted by the tripwires of confusing bus lanes, confusing box junctions, and confusing parking regs, a constant barrage of road markings and signage that means less time spent driving carefully, more time avoiding getting fined. It's got far too much. Indeed I wonder how many road deaths are attributable to these distractions? kingstonpaul
  • Score: 1

1:50pm Mon 14 Apr 14

captain_shamrock says...

Happy59 wrote:
Parking fines, yellow box and bus lanes infringements Kingston council is awash with money from these stealth taxes but still we have one of the highest council tax rates in the country. Makes you wonder what they spend it all on.
2 reasons:

1. Unfair Funding Formula

The per-capita Central Govt grant to Kingston is much lower than many other councils. The best example is super-rich Kensington & Chelsea who get a bigger per-capita grant from Central Govt than Kingston.

This results in Roman Abramovich paying less in council tax for his Chelsea mansion than we do for some Surbiton semi-detatcheds. Most people will be less than surprised to learn that the council tax and central Govt grant system was brought in by a Conservative Government, and more importantly, Conservatives continue to resist calls to make it fair.

This unfair system would of course be changed if the Lib Dem's plans for higher tax on properties worth over £2 Million are introduced. Labour support the Lib Dem's plans, so it's highly likely there'll be much needed change, as long as the Conservatives aren't returned.

Independent article on council tax reform: http://goo.gl/9T3YLD


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[quote][p][bold]Happy59[/bold] wrote: Parking fines, yellow box and bus lanes infringements Kingston council is awash with money from these stealth taxes but still we have one of the highest council tax rates in the country. Makes you wonder what they spend it all on.[/p][/quote]2 reasons: 1. Unfair Funding Formula The per-capita Central Govt grant to Kingston is much lower than many other councils. The best example is super-rich Kensington & Chelsea who get a bigger per-capita grant from Central Govt than Kingston. This results in Roman Abramovich paying less in council tax for his Chelsea mansion than we do for some Surbiton semi-detatcheds. Most people will be less than surprised to learn that the council tax and central Govt grant system was brought in by a Conservative Government, and more importantly, Conservatives continue to resist calls to make it fair. This unfair system would of course be changed if the Lib Dem's plans for higher tax on properties worth over £2 Million are introduced. Labour support the Lib Dem's plans, so it's highly likely there'll be much needed change, as long as the Conservatives aren't returned. Independent article on council tax reform: http://goo.gl/9T3YLD . captain_shamrock
  • Score: 3

1:54pm Mon 14 Apr 14

captain_shamrock says...

Happy59 wrote:
Parking fines, yellow box and bus lanes infringements Kingston council is awash with money from these stealth taxes but still we have one of the highest council tax rates in the country. Makes you wonder what they spend it all on.
2 reasons:

2. Afaik, money raised by fining motorists who park illegally or dangerously is only allowed to be spent on things directly related to transport, eg, keep traffic running, road safety, or paying for concessionary travel for Kingston's elderly.
[quote][p][bold]Happy59[/bold] wrote: Parking fines, yellow box and bus lanes infringements Kingston council is awash with money from these stealth taxes but still we have one of the highest council tax rates in the country. Makes you wonder what they spend it all on.[/p][/quote]2 reasons: 2. Afaik, money raised by fining motorists who park illegally or dangerously is only allowed to be spent on things directly related to transport, eg, keep traffic running, road safety, or paying for concessionary travel for Kingston's elderly. captain_shamrock
  • Score: 0

2:17pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Tony from Surbiton says...

One of the smallest boroughs with relatively low poverty and few problems compared to most other London boroughs too. Vast amounts of money from parking fines, supposed traffic violations and the council receives money from the highest council tax in London.

This results in large number of holes in the road and dangerous pavements, leaving many residents injured or with damaged vehicles. Oh, and not enough school places for the kids and service cuts for the elderly and disabled. Plus huge debts that we need to be serviced or paid off in the coming years.
One of the smallest boroughs with relatively low poverty and few problems compared to most other London boroughs too. Vast amounts of money from parking fines, supposed traffic violations and the council receives money from the highest council tax in London. This results in large number of holes in the road and dangerous pavements, leaving many residents injured or with damaged vehicles. Oh, and not enough school places for the kids and service cuts for the elderly and disabled. Plus huge debts that we need to be serviced or paid off in the coming years. Tony from Surbiton
  • Score: 2

2:36pm Mon 14 Apr 14

kingstonpaul says...

Perhaps if the previous council leader had been less distracted, we wouldn't be in this mess....
Perhaps if the previous council leader had been less distracted, we wouldn't be in this mess.... kingstonpaul
  • Score: -15

3:41pm Mon 14 Apr 14

FSD2013 says...

reesmf wrote:
Excellent news for all Community Charge payers! And if you don't want to pay a parking fine then simply don't park where you are not meant to.
Parking illegally is one matter but, having been a victim of Kingston Council's ticketing on a number of occasions, having believed I had parked legally, and having all of these tickets overturned, most on the basis of legalities not being adhered to it is of concern that so many ticket are being issued - are there really that many people parking illegally and in such a manner as to impact on traffic or cause a danger to other road users or are vehicles being hunted out that may fit a contravention and people do not have the time, inclination or knowledge to appeal tickets issued that are not fully compliant with the law governing them or the parking regulations/signage itself?
[quote][p][bold]reesmf[/bold] wrote: Excellent news for all Community Charge payers! And if you don't want to pay a parking fine then simply don't park where you are not meant to.[/p][/quote]Parking illegally is one matter but, having been a victim of Kingston Council's ticketing on a number of occasions, having believed I had parked legally, and having all of these tickets overturned, most on the basis of legalities not being adhered to it is of concern that so many ticket are being issued - are there really that many people parking illegally and in such a manner as to impact on traffic or cause a danger to other road users or are vehicles being hunted out that may fit a contravention and people do not have the time, inclination or knowledge to appeal tickets issued that are not fully compliant with the law governing them or the parking regulations/signage itself? FSD2013
  • Score: 3

6:07am Tue 15 Apr 14

Beverly RA says...

Millions sitting in a bank account from Parking infringements, its nice to know that that money can be spent on Road and Pavement improvements. Yet the Lib Dem Councillors voted unanimously against this at Full Council when put forward by the Conservative opposition Party preferring instead to keep the money in the Bank letting residents complain complain and complain about the state of our Footways and pothole ridden roads. They talk the talk but don't do anything about it.
Millions sitting in a bank account from Parking infringements, its nice to know that that money can be spent on Road and Pavement improvements. Yet the Lib Dem Councillors voted unanimously against this at Full Council when put forward by the Conservative opposition Party preferring instead to keep the money in the Bank letting residents complain complain and complain about the state of our Footways and pothole ridden roads. They talk the talk but don't do anything about it. Beverly RA
  • Score: -3

10:30am Tue 15 Apr 14

DB says...

Happy59 wrote:
Parking fines, yellow box and bus lanes infringements Kingston council is awash with money from these stealth taxes but still we have one of the highest council tax rates in the country. Makes you wonder what they spend it all on.
I am not sure either. Captain Shamrock is right that the central Government fnding formula is unfair, but I still don't understand how Kingston ends up with more expensive council tax than other outer London boroughs.

Kingston is a tiny borough geographically that is almost entirely built on, meaning more income and less outgoings on maintaining green space than, say, Bromley or Sutton. Kingston residents are lucky in that almost all of the green space we have on our doorstep like Richmond Park, Bushy Park, Wimbledon Common etc are actually in neighbouring boroughs so we can enjoy them whilst only having to pay for upkeep of the tiny local areas like Claremont Gardens and Fishponds Park.

As well as being built up, the central areas of Kingston & Surbiton are also very densely populated for outer London. How many large Victorian houses are there that would have paid £3.4k band H council tax, but now pay twice that as 4 band D flats?

Not to mention all of the new build flats that are put up without much in the way of extra facilities or infrastructre provided - 1,000 flats built on wasteland for 'Royal Quarter' must bring in the best part of £2m extra council tax...
[quote][p][bold]Happy59[/bold] wrote: Parking fines, yellow box and bus lanes infringements Kingston council is awash with money from these stealth taxes but still we have one of the highest council tax rates in the country. Makes you wonder what they spend it all on.[/p][/quote]I am not sure either. Captain Shamrock is right that the central Government fnding formula is unfair, but I still don't understand how Kingston ends up with more expensive council tax than other outer London boroughs. Kingston is a tiny borough geographically that is almost entirely built on, meaning more income and less outgoings on maintaining green space than, say, Bromley or Sutton. Kingston residents are lucky in that almost all of the green space we have on our doorstep like Richmond Park, Bushy Park, Wimbledon Common etc are actually in neighbouring boroughs so we can enjoy them whilst only having to pay for upkeep of the tiny local areas like Claremont Gardens and Fishponds Park. As well as being built up, the central areas of Kingston & Surbiton are also very densely populated for outer London. How many large Victorian houses are there that would have paid £3.4k band H council tax, but now pay twice that as 4 band D flats? Not to mention all of the new build flats that are put up without much in the way of extra facilities or infrastructre provided - 1,000 flats built on wasteland for 'Royal Quarter' must bring in the best part of £2m extra council tax... DB
  • Score: 1

11:44pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Carshalton Resident says...

Don't live in Kingston but just done for £65.00 for having the temerity to turn left into Thetford Road because I was going to watch my son play football at the LSE football pitch. Not sure why you can't turn left off a main road into a side road but if you approach from the other way you can turn right across the traffic into the same turning. Just a warning to others not to do the same, but I suppose the locals are aware. Just think that the Royal Borough of Kingston are just twisting as much money that they can out of passing motorists. Watch a bunch of mercenaries!
Don't live in Kingston but just done for £65.00 for having the temerity to turn left into Thetford Road because I was going to watch my son play football at the LSE football pitch. Not sure why you can't turn left off a main road into a side road but if you approach from the other way you can turn right across the traffic into the same turning. Just a warning to others not to do the same, but I suppose the locals are aware. Just think that the Royal Borough of Kingston are just twisting as much money that they can out of passing motorists. Watch a bunch of mercenaries! Carshalton Resident
  • Score: 0

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