Residents and businesses defend Barcadia ahead of Kingston Council licence review

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Barcadia could face permanent closure next Monday when Kingston police will present evidence to councillors about a Christmas Eve “glassing”.

It was closed by councillors for 28 days on December 30 ahead of a full licence review.

But residents and business owners leapt to the bar’s defence by writing letters to Kingston Council.

Daveed Jormon, owner of nearby Cash & Carry told the council: “I do not believe that Barcadia is an unsafe place.

“In fact I have experienced more trouble coming from the larger clubs in Kingston.

“There have been several occasions when Barcadia’s security staff have supported our security staff to deal with violent or drunk and disorderly people in my shop.”

One town centre resident said: “This is a local bar I have the pleasure to be a regular client for the past eight years, where I have only experienced good times socially.

“In regards to the alleged crimes connected to Barcadia listed by the police, the bar cannot always be held accountable for them, simply that won’t be fair.”

Another wrote: “I am astonished that the licensing committee should consider this [review] to be appropriate and proportionate when considering that my friends and I have been avoiding other venues in Kingston due to murders and rape crimes that happened there in the last years.”

However, in evidence to the council’s licensing sub-committee PC Kevin Hyde said: “The current number of crimes related to Barcardia is out of proportion to the size of the venue.”

PC Hyde said another GBH incident occurred at Barcadia on December 28 last year, and that in total 12 assaults had been recorded there since April last year.

He asked that if councillors did not revoke Barcadia’s licence they instead consider cutting its opening hours to midnight.

Last April after a licence review 23 new conditions were imposed on the bar after a council environmental health officer raised concerns about disorder.

In September a closure notice was handed down after the bar failed to use their Scannet ID system.

Evidence to councillors also includes testimony from the head of the police’s pan-London licensing team, Det Ch Insp John Cushion about a visit to Barcadia on Saturday, December 14.

He said that on the night Barcadia’s “operation appeared to be in some disarray”.

His concerns included security staff not correctly displaying their own identification badges, failure to scan punters’ ID correctly, and the level of customers’ inebriation.

The review will take place on Monday, January 27, at 10.30am in the Guildhall.

 

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9:30am Tue 21 Jan 14

DB says...

It s hardly surprising that Daveed Jormon is happy to see the place stay open. The majority of his customers probably get loaded on cheap booze from his shop before going into Barcadia.

Not that long ago, there were no off licences in the central part of Kingston at all. Bizarre for such a large town, but quite sensible given what the council have let it become during the evenings.

Perhaps there should be a bit more regulation on his premises as well.

The residents who have supported Barcadia appear to be customers and I doubt this is a widely held view if everyone over the age of 18 is taken into account. Still, if people don't express their views, how can they expect to be counted?

I totally agree that Barcadia is probably not one of the worst offenders, but as has been demonstrated by the Oceana debacle, the council have not got the power to take down the big boys.

At least by removing some of the smaller trouble-makers, Kingston may start to lose a bit of it's reputation as youth-nightclub centre of SW London.
It s hardly surprising that Daveed Jormon is happy to see the place stay open. The majority of his customers probably get loaded on cheap booze from his shop before going into Barcadia. Not that long ago, there were no off licences in the central part of Kingston at all. Bizarre for such a large town, but quite sensible given what the council have let it become during the evenings. Perhaps there should be a bit more regulation on his premises as well. The residents who have supported Barcadia appear to be customers and I doubt this is a widely held view if everyone over the age of 18 is taken into account. Still, if people don't express their views, how can they expect to be counted? I totally agree that Barcadia is probably not one of the worst offenders, but as has been demonstrated by the Oceana debacle, the council have not got the power to take down the big boys. At least by removing some of the smaller trouble-makers, Kingston may start to lose a bit of it's reputation as youth-nightclub centre of SW London. DB

7:38pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Beverly RA says...

I agree with BD except for one comment , the Council powers are the same for each case.
I agree with BD except for one comment , the Council powers are the same for each case. Beverly RA

7:39pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Beverly RA says...

opps it should have read DB
opps it should have read DB Beverly RA

1:27pm Thu 23 Jan 14

kingstonpaul says...

Talking about poxes on the Kingston landscape, I see there's now a Ladbrokes in the centre of town by Wilkinsons. Appreciate that the bookies are all trying to get more outlets for their betting terminals (which deliver huge profits) but do we want them so close to the heart of Kingston, as it just drags the locale down.
Talking about poxes on the Kingston landscape, I see there's now a Ladbrokes in the centre of town by Wilkinsons. Appreciate that the bookies are all trying to get more outlets for their betting terminals (which deliver huge profits) but do we want them so close to the heart of Kingston, as it just drags the locale down. kingstonpaul

4:02pm Thu 23 Jan 14

DB says...

kingstonpaul wrote:
Talking about poxes on the Kingston landscape, I see there's now a Ladbrokes in the centre of town by Wilkinsons. Appreciate that the bookies are all trying to get more outlets for their betting terminals (which deliver huge profits) but do we want them so close to the heart of Kingston, as it just drags the locale down.
I agree. They seem to be opening up as quick as possible all over London. They definitely drag an area down, but not sure they are as harmful as badly placed off licences or clubs because they don't do any physical harm.
[quote][p][bold]kingstonpaul[/bold] wrote: Talking about poxes on the Kingston landscape, I see there's now a Ladbrokes in the centre of town by Wilkinsons. Appreciate that the bookies are all trying to get more outlets for their betting terminals (which deliver huge profits) but do we want them so close to the heart of Kingston, as it just drags the locale down.[/p][/quote]I agree. They seem to be opening up as quick as possible all over London. They definitely drag an area down, but not sure they are as harmful as badly placed off licences or clubs because they don't do any physical harm. DB

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