VIDEO: Van driver caught on camera driving down Tolworth Greenway

Surrey Comet: Caught on camera: the driver of the van Caught on camera: the driver of the van

A brazen driver has been caught on camera driving a white van down the middle of Tolworth’s new Greenway.

Rob Lee, an IT director and former councillor who lives in Tolworth Broadway, caught the driver on the barrierless Greenway, designed for pedestrians and cyclists to share.

In the video the driver of the Enterprise rental van is parked on the newly-completed green path.

When challenged by the zealous ex-councillor, the driver said: “I’m a delivery driver, mate.”

Mr Lee says: "You have no right to drive on here.

“You’re being recorded. I’m handing it over to the police."

The driver says: "What are the police going to do?"

Mr Lee added: "Just you wait and see, sunshine. We paid for this. You can't drive on it."

As the van drove away Mr Lee ran after it shouting: "He’ll pay!"

He complained to the police on the same day.

Surrey Comet:

The van parked up on Tolworth Greenway

Mr Lee said: “All I did was flick my phone on and record it.

“We as a local community can tackle those idiots.

“The Greenway is a great success, a bit like the fountain in the market place.

“It’s our area – we have to take responsibility for it.”

A Kingston police spokeswoman said today that criminal proceedings were not underway.

The Highway Code, section 145, says: “You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency.”

Have you filmed or photographed drivers misusing the Greenway? Call the newsdesk on 020 8744 4273 or email jon.sharman@london.newsquest.co.uk.


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2:02pm Wed 18 Dec 13

DB says...

It appears that Mr. Lee has wasted his time in doing this if the police will do nothing about it. Are they still not allowed to bring proceedings based on evidence like this? A great shame.

It is interesting that Mr. Lee judges the Greenway to be a 'great success'. I don't think that I have seen anyone else describe it as that. I am not sure what would even make it a great success...
It appears that Mr. Lee has wasted his time in doing this if the police will do nothing about it. Are they still not allowed to bring proceedings based on evidence like this? A great shame. It is interesting that Mr. Lee judges the Greenway to be a 'great success'. I don't think that I have seen anyone else describe it as that. I am not sure what would even make it a great success... DB

2:14pm Wed 18 Dec 13

FSD2013 says...

Unfortunately, there is nothing to indicate to people who do not know the area that the island is in fact a pedestrian and cycle path so there will be instances of simple confusion.

Added to that the fact that the traffic on The Broadway is no better than when the works were taking place and people still need to get to work, make it to appointments and collect or drop off children, it is no wonder that people may be using the island as a turning point to try to avoid traffic and find alternative routes - all the while avoiding fines from the traffic enforcement cameras on the yellow boxes - not something that would make me come to Tolworth to shop which we must not forget was the whole purpose of the thing anyway!
Unfortunately, there is nothing to indicate to people who do not know the area that the island is in fact a pedestrian and cycle path so there will be instances of simple confusion. Added to that the fact that the traffic on The Broadway is no better than when the works were taking place and people still need to get to work, make it to appointments and collect or drop off children, it is no wonder that people may be using the island as a turning point to try to avoid traffic and find alternative routes - all the while avoiding fines from the traffic enforcement cameras on the yellow boxes - not something that would make me come to Tolworth to shop which we must not forget was the whole purpose of the thing anyway! FSD2013

2:14pm Wed 18 Dec 13

321200 says...

"We've paid for this, you can't drive on it"

Lol- don't remind us that us poor Kingstonians funded this awful artwork!

Are there any signs up yet saying no parking etc?
"We've paid for this, you can't drive on it" Lol- don't remind us that us poor Kingstonians funded this awful artwork! Are there any signs up yet saying no parking etc? 321200

3:24pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Scowners says...

A great success based on what criteria? If its the increase in the time it takes to drive through it a lot of the time then I quite agree.
A great success based on what criteria? If its the increase in the time it takes to drive through it a lot of the time then I quite agree. Scowners

3:46pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Happy59 says...

Although he is in the wrong you can understand why he did it. There are no signs to indicate that you can't drive/park/stop on the Greenway and he if he is a delivery driver he is probably on a very tight schedule, the chaos and tailbacks created by the Greenway really do not assist anyone least of all commercial drivers such as delivery and bus drivers.

I would also question Mr Lee's definition of a success, if he thinks the Greenway is a success story he probably thinks the economy is improving!
Although he is in the wrong you can understand why he did it. There are no signs to indicate that you can't drive/park/stop on the Greenway and he if he is a delivery driver he is probably on a very tight schedule, the chaos and tailbacks created by the Greenway really do not assist anyone least of all commercial drivers such as delivery and bus drivers. I would also question Mr Lee's definition of a success, if he thinks the Greenway is a success story he probably thinks the economy is improving! Happy59

5:04pm Wed 18 Dec 13

SteveC1964 says...

Rob Lee is absolutely right. The driver was acting illegally. And the driver was right when he said "what are the police going to do?" because the answer is "nothing". Mr Lee should send his evidence to Kingston Council and their civil enforcement officers should use it to ticket the guy for illegal parking on a footway.

The police are only interested in persecuting cyclists, not prosecuting drivers. Don't know why? Prejudice? - highly likely. The police do nothing about drivers illegally driving in the Ancient Market Place either. It's beneath them it seems. Or is it actually the COuncil's job to enforce such infractions. Well it's beneath thej to do anything about illegal driving too. Do KingstonFirst (who manage the market) care? No they don't give two hoots. Could not care less. It's one rule for us and another for them.
Rob Lee is absolutely right. The driver was acting illegally. And the driver was right when he said "what are the police going to do?" because the answer is "nothing". Mr Lee should send his evidence to Kingston Council and their civil enforcement officers should use it to ticket the guy for illegal parking on a footway. The police are only interested in persecuting cyclists, not prosecuting drivers. Don't know why? Prejudice? - highly likely. The police do nothing about drivers illegally driving in the Ancient Market Place either. It's beneath them it seems. Or is it actually the COuncil's job to enforce such infractions. Well it's beneath thej to do anything about illegal driving too. Do KingstonFirst (who manage the market) care? No they don't give two hoots. Could not care less. It's one rule for us and another for them. SteveC1964

5:07pm Wed 18 Dec 13

SteveC1964 says...

Red Lines mean it's TfL's job to enforce.
Red Lines mean it's TfL's job to enforce. SteveC1964

5:09pm Wed 18 Dec 13

SteveC1964 says...

Rob, send it to Boris J.
Rob, send it to Boris J. SteveC1964

5:21pm Wed 18 Dec 13

DB says...

SteveC1964 wrote:
Red Lines mean it's TfL's job to enforce.
Is that true???

You could'nt make up this division of responsibility now. TfL have to dispatch patrols to enforce exactly the same areas that the council are enforcing the yellow lines and other restrictions?

Madness.
[quote][p][bold]SteveC1964[/bold] wrote: Red Lines mean it's TfL's job to enforce.[/p][/quote]Is that true??? You could'nt make up this division of responsibility now. TfL have to dispatch patrols to enforce exactly the same areas that the council are enforcing the yellow lines and other restrictions? Madness. DB

11:20pm Wed 18 Dec 13

alphabeti says...

Not been to the Greenway much . What is it's legal classification; pavement, footpath or bridleway? Are there signs to advise road users of this? To me it looks like the sort of place to park a delivery van if you were in a hurry.
Not been to the Greenway much . What is it's legal classification; pavement, footpath or bridleway? Are there signs to advise road users of this? To me it looks like the sort of place to park a delivery van if you were in a hurry. alphabeti

8:17am Thu 19 Dec 13

concernedofkingston says...

I applaud the former councillor and I hope that whoever is reponsible for enforcement takes proper action against the van driver. I would also suggest that the former councillor could also do kingston shoppers a service by videoing the cyclists who regularly flout the requrement to dismount in the main pedesrtian zone (maximum penalty£500).
I applaud the former councillor and I hope that whoever is reponsible for enforcement takes proper action against the van driver. I would also suggest that the former councillor could also do kingston shoppers a service by videoing the cyclists who regularly flout the requrement to dismount in the main pedesrtian zone (maximum penalty£500). concernedofkingston

10:44am Thu 19 Dec 13

coach77cfc says...

The police aren't going to do anything bout this, I had another car crash into my car at set of traffic lights he was in th right turn only lane and drove straight over the junction and into my vehicle he then drove away.I followed the car got the registration number make model brief description of driver and passenger. I Phoned this information through to the police, the next day went to Sutton police station filled out a form showed them my insurance driving licence m o t not needed police office said "oh I don't know where to put those details on this form mate lets leave that shall we"
Got a letter a week or so later nothing being done by the police what's the point ? you can get away with hit and run so what they going to do that white van driver NOTHING that's what
The police aren't going to do anything bout this, I had another car crash into my car at set of traffic lights he was in th right turn only lane and drove straight over the junction and into my vehicle he then drove away.I followed the car got the registration number make model brief description of driver and passenger. I Phoned this information through to the police, the next day went to Sutton police station filled out a form showed them my insurance driving licence m o t not needed police office said "oh I don't know where to put those details on this form mate lets leave that shall we" Got a letter a week or so later nothing being done by the police what's the point ? you can get away with hit and run so what they going to do that white van driver NOTHING that's what coach77cfc

11:19am Thu 19 Dec 13

concernedofkingston says...

coach77cfc wrote:
The police aren't going to do anything bout this, I had another car crash into my car at set of traffic lights he was in th right turn only lane and drove straight over the junction and into my vehicle he then drove away.I followed the car got the registration number make model brief description of driver and passenger. I Phoned this information through to the police, the next day went to Sutton police station filled out a form showed them my insurance driving licence m o t not needed police office said "oh I don't know where to put those details on this form mate lets leave that shall we"
Got a letter a week or so later nothing being done by the police what's the point ? you can get away with hit and run so what they going to do that white van driver NOTHING that's what
I wonder if this is why police and politicians keep telling us that the level of crime is down?
[quote][p][bold]coach77cfc[/bold] wrote: The police aren't going to do anything bout this, I had another car crash into my car at set of traffic lights he was in th right turn only lane and drove straight over the junction and into my vehicle he then drove away.I followed the car got the registration number make model brief description of driver and passenger. I Phoned this information through to the police, the next day went to Sutton police station filled out a form showed them my insurance driving licence m o t not needed police office said "oh I don't know where to put those details on this form mate lets leave that shall we" Got a letter a week or so later nothing being done by the police what's the point ? you can get away with hit and run so what they going to do that white van driver NOTHING that's what[/p][/quote]I wonder if this is why police and politicians keep telling us that the level of crime is down? concernedofkingston

11:38am Thu 19 Dec 13

SteveC1964 says...

coach77cfc wrote:
The police aren't going to do anything bout this, I had another car crash into my car at set of traffic lights he was in th right turn only lane and drove straight over the junction and into my vehicle he then drove away.I followed the car got the registration number make model brief description of driver and passenger. I Phoned this information through to the police, the next day went to Sutton police station filled out a form showed them my insurance driving licence m o t not needed police office said "oh I don't know where to put those details on this form mate lets leave that shall we"
Got a letter a week or so later nothing being done by the police what's the point ? you can get away with hit and run so what they going to do that white van driver NOTHING that's what
Have you given all the details of the other vehicles to your insurance company? What are you after? financial compensation or for the driver to be given points? Or both? If someone was hurt the police would get involved. If not they have no interest. In the case of parking on the footway/cycleway at this section of Tolworth Broadway it's down to TfL to enforce as it's red route.
[quote][p][bold]coach77cfc[/bold] wrote: The police aren't going to do anything bout this, I had another car crash into my car at set of traffic lights he was in th right turn only lane and drove straight over the junction and into my vehicle he then drove away.I followed the car got the registration number make model brief description of driver and passenger. I Phoned this information through to the police, the next day went to Sutton police station filled out a form showed them my insurance driving licence m o t not needed police office said "oh I don't know where to put those details on this form mate lets leave that shall we" Got a letter a week or so later nothing being done by the police what's the point ? you can get away with hit and run so what they going to do that white van driver NOTHING that's what[/p][/quote]Have you given all the details of the other vehicles to your insurance company? What are you after? financial compensation or for the driver to be given points? Or both? If someone was hurt the police would get involved. If not they have no interest. In the case of parking on the footway/cycleway at this section of Tolworth Broadway it's down to TfL to enforce as it's red route. SteveC1964

11:40am Thu 19 Dec 13

SteveC1964 says...

ConcernedofKinsgton: Is crashing into a car a 'crime' or an 'accident'?
ConcernedofKinsgton: Is crashing into a car a 'crime' or an 'accident'? SteveC1964

11:43am Thu 19 Dec 13

SteveC1964 says...

Hit and Run is a crime I'd say.
Hit and Run is a crime I'd say. SteveC1964

12:13pm Thu 19 Dec 13

concernedofkingston says...

SteveC1964 wrote:
ConcernedofKinsgton: Is crashing into a car a 'crime' or an 'accident'?
Isn't failure to exchange details an offence?. In any event I think the police could have been more helpful in explaining why it was nothing to do with them in their letter (if., as implied, they did't say?). Hopefuly in a case where there is video evidence someone wil take some action otherwise even fewer people will feel inclined to help the authorities in future.
[quote][p][bold]SteveC1964[/bold] wrote: ConcernedofKinsgton: Is crashing into a car a 'crime' or an 'accident'?[/p][/quote]Isn't failure to exchange details an offence?. In any event I think the police could have been more helpful in explaining why it was nothing to do with them in their letter (if., as implied, they did't say?). Hopefuly in a case where there is video evidence someone wil take some action otherwise even fewer people will feel inclined to help the authorities in future. concernedofkingston

4:12pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Mind the gap says...

Another arrogant motorist I'm afraid. You cannot expect them to obey simple traffic laws. A license, registration and insurance doesn't make any difference.
Another arrogant motorist I'm afraid. You cannot expect them to obey simple traffic laws. A license, registration and insurance doesn't make any difference. Mind the gap

5:04pm Thu 19 Dec 13

pinky107 says...

great success ? is he deluded ? it's aweful . the planks of wood rising up are ugly and look like a game of jenga gone wrong plus you cant see cyclists until it's too late . the crossings are not sign posted to let every one know they can cross there and the green crossing bit is too dark and should be zebra crossings . the ramp subway by the bowl has had steps put in because the designed the crossing wrong so cut the subway shorter .
cars still go through the red lights as the come from o.l.i school so theyre out of the 'box' but ignore people trying to cross . cars do u-turns over the greenway crap . the wooden seats are unplaned and make a great bin .
the whole thing was unwanted , a waste of money and badly designed .
whoever o.k'd it should be sacked .
great success ? is he deluded ? it's aweful . the planks of wood rising up are ugly and look like a game of jenga gone wrong plus you cant see cyclists until it's too late . the crossings are not sign posted to let every one know they can cross there and the green crossing bit is too dark and should be zebra crossings . the ramp subway by the bowl has had steps put in because the designed the crossing wrong so cut the subway shorter . cars still go through the red lights as the come from o.l.i school so theyre out of the 'box' but ignore people trying to cross . cars do u-turns over the greenway crap . the wooden seats are unplaned and make a great bin . the whole thing was unwanted , a waste of money and badly designed . whoever o.k'd it should be sacked . pinky107

5:09pm Thu 19 Dec 13

pinky107 says...

plus the traffic is a hell of alot worse and not forgetting the increase in accidents .
ANY CHANCE THAT THE IDIOT WHO WANTED THIS COULD EXPLAIN WHY THIS IS A SUCCESS WHEN US LOCALS OBJECTED TO IT ?????? IT IS US WHO PAID FOR IT !!!!!!!!!!!!1
plus the traffic is a hell of alot worse and not forgetting the increase in accidents . ANY CHANCE THAT THE IDIOT WHO WANTED THIS COULD EXPLAIN WHY THIS IS A SUCCESS WHEN US LOCALS OBJECTED TO IT ?????? IT IS US WHO PAID FOR IT !!!!!!!!!!!!1 pinky107

8:48pm Thu 19 Dec 13

SurboTurbo says...

pinky107 wrote:
plus the traffic is a hell of alot worse and not forgetting the increase in accidents .
ANY CHANCE THAT THE IDIOT WHO WANTED THIS COULD EXPLAIN WHY THIS IS A SUCCESS WHEN US LOCALS OBJECTED TO IT ?????? IT IS US WHO PAID FOR IT !!!!!!!!!!!!1
The real idiots are the ones who post here thinking that this scheme was designed to speed up traffic.

This scheme is meant to SLOW IT DOWN to the 20mph speed limit that was there before, but got massively ignored. That's why there will be fewer accidents. And why the broadway will be better than it was before. I crossed it 8 times on saturday. 7 out of 8 times the traffic stopped for me at the green crossings quicker than I would have been waiting for lights. A cycle lane is safer than cycling on what was there before. It was a death trap. I think some people around here are against anything new to be honest.

The only way to speed the traffic up would be to flatten everything between Tolworth, Surbiton and Kingston and build a dual carriageway right through the middle. Now that WOULD ruin the area and nobody has supported road schems like that since the 60s. The traffic would be quicker, but our neighborhoods would be trashed.
[quote][p][bold]pinky107[/bold] wrote: plus the traffic is a hell of alot worse and not forgetting the increase in accidents . ANY CHANCE THAT THE IDIOT WHO WANTED THIS COULD EXPLAIN WHY THIS IS A SUCCESS WHEN US LOCALS OBJECTED TO IT ?????? IT IS US WHO PAID FOR IT !!!!!!!!!!!!1[/p][/quote]The real idiots are the ones who post here thinking that this scheme was designed to speed up traffic. This scheme is meant to SLOW IT DOWN to the 20mph speed limit that was there before, but got massively ignored. That's why there will be fewer accidents. And why the broadway will be better than it was before. I crossed it 8 times on saturday. 7 out of 8 times the traffic stopped for me at the green crossings quicker than I would have been waiting for lights. A cycle lane is safer than cycling on what was there before. It was a death trap. I think some people around here are against anything new to be honest. The only way to speed the traffic up would be to flatten everything between Tolworth, Surbiton and Kingston and build a dual carriageway right through the middle. Now that WOULD ruin the area and nobody has supported road schems like that since the 60s. The traffic would be quicker, but our neighborhoods would be trashed. SurboTurbo

11:50am Fri 20 Dec 13

DTEJ says...

What is the point of a walkway in the middle of the road?
What is the point of a walkway in the middle of the road? DTEJ

12:59pm Fri 20 Dec 13

elyobelyob says...

"You wait and see sunshine" .. ha ha ha. (c) 1946
"You wait and see sunshine" .. ha ha ha. (c) 1946 elyobelyob

2:58pm Fri 20 Dec 13

SteveC1964 says...

DTEJ wrote:
What is the point of a walkway in the middle of the road?
The point of the shared cycle track and footway is that it is (1) a place where pedestrians can wait in the middle before they cross the section half of the carriageway (2) people on foot can cross, wlak along to where they want to cross (3) people on bikes can cycle without the risk of being cut up, having a door opened on them and not have to wait behind a static queue of traffic or squeeze down the side of a line of vehicles. (4) it helps people get to and from the crossings at the roundabout. (5) it looks a whol lot better than the poig-pen railings that were down the middle of Towlroth Broadway between, um, 1962 and 2013. Before then there weren't any railings down the middle.
[quote][p][bold]DTEJ[/bold] wrote: What is the point of a walkway in the middle of the road?[/p][/quote]The point of the shared cycle track and footway is that it is (1) a place where pedestrians can wait in the middle before they cross the section half of the carriageway (2) people on foot can cross, wlak along to where they want to cross (3) people on bikes can cycle without the risk of being cut up, having a door opened on them and not have to wait behind a static queue of traffic or squeeze down the side of a line of vehicles. (4) it helps people get to and from the crossings at the roundabout. (5) it looks a whol lot better than the poig-pen railings that were down the middle of Towlroth Broadway between, um, 1962 and 2013. Before then there weren't any railings down the middle. SteveC1964

3:09pm Fri 20 Dec 13

SteveC1964 says...

The point of the shared cycle track and footway is that it is (1) a place where pedestrians can wait in the middle before they cross the section half of the carriageway (2) people on foot can cross, and then walk along to where they want to cross (3) people on bikes can cycle without the risk of being cut up, having a door opened on them and not have to wait behind a static queue of traffic or squeeze down the side of a line of vehicles (4) it helps people get to and from the crossings at the roundabout. (5) it looks a whole lot better than the pig-pen railings that were down the middle of Tolworth Broadway between, um, 1962 (approx) and 2013. Before then there weren't any railings down the middle.
The point of the shared cycle track and footway is that it is (1) a place where pedestrians can wait in the middle before they cross the section half of the carriageway (2) people on foot can cross, and then walk along to where they want to cross (3) people on bikes can cycle without the risk of being cut up, having a door opened on them and not have to wait behind a static queue of traffic or squeeze down the side of a line of vehicles (4) it helps people get to and from the crossings at the roundabout. (5) it looks a whole lot better than the pig-pen railings that were down the middle of Tolworth Broadway between, um, 1962 (approx) and 2013. Before then there weren't any railings down the middle. SteveC1964

4:19pm Fri 20 Dec 13

pinky107 says...

still would have been q1uicker to cross using the subways and the old one that was filled in ages ago though. as for the 4 sets of lights to stop at over the round about , it's still quicker to use the subaways especially when the lights dont work or if theres a pile up . it never matters how slow cars are restricted to there is always some idiot who ignores the limit , rules and accidents still happen as has been proved by the recent ones in the last month .
the scheme is crap , we all know it is and would be .
still would have been q1uicker to cross using the subways and the old one that was filled in ages ago though. as for the 4 sets of lights to stop at over the round about , it's still quicker to use the subaways especially when the lights dont work or if theres a pile up . it never matters how slow cars are restricted to there is always some idiot who ignores the limit , rules and accidents still happen as has been proved by the recent ones in the last month . the scheme is crap , we all know it is and would be . pinky107

4:21pm Fri 20 Dec 13

pinky107 says...

as for the idiot ( SurboTurbo ) who used my quote about speed , did i mention speed at all ? no i said the traffic is worse , nothing to do with speed !!!!!!!!!!!!!
as for the idiot ( SurboTurbo ) who used my quote about speed , did i mention speed at all ? no i said the traffic is worse , nothing to do with speed !!!!!!!!!!!!! pinky107

10:32am Mon 23 Dec 13

SteveC1964 says...

pinky107 wrote:
still would have been q1uicker to cross using the subways and the old one that was filled in ages ago though. as for the 4 sets of lights to stop at over the round about , it's still quicker to use the subaways especially when the lights dont work or if theres a pile up . it never matters how slow cars are restricted to there is always some idiot who ignores the limit , rules and accidents still happen as has been proved by the recent ones in the last month .
the scheme is crap , we all know it is and would be .
mmmm....yes, pedestrian subways are so lovely and attractive. They hardly ever flood or smell and I hardly ever feel threatened when I'm 10 ft undeground where no one can see me.
[quote][p][bold]pinky107[/bold] wrote: still would have been q1uicker to cross using the subways and the old one that was filled in ages ago though. as for the 4 sets of lights to stop at over the round about , it's still quicker to use the subaways especially when the lights dont work or if theres a pile up . it never matters how slow cars are restricted to there is always some idiot who ignores the limit , rules and accidents still happen as has been proved by the recent ones in the last month . the scheme is crap , we all know it is and would be .[/p][/quote]mmmm....yes, pedestrian subways are so lovely and attractive. They hardly ever flood or smell and I hardly ever feel threatened when I'm 10 ft undeground where no one can see me. SteveC1964

2:44pm Tue 24 Dec 13

pinky107 says...

'' mmmm....yes, pedestrian subways are so lovely and attractive. They hardly ever flood or smell and I hardly ever feel threatened when I'm 10 ft undeground where no one can see me.''
pathetic reply !!!

well the subways worked for untold years and i dont remember people getting splattered by cars in them , do you ? dont recall cars parking in them either . the large planks of wood are great too , no one can see who is round the corner of them as they block the view . the greenway is uglier than the subways , the greenway is a waste of money and time . it is absolute crap as most of the residents of tolworth have said over and over .
'' mmmm....yes, pedestrian subways are so lovely and attractive. They hardly ever flood or smell and I hardly ever feel threatened when I'm 10 ft undeground where no one can see me.'' pathetic reply !!! well the subways worked for untold years and i dont remember people getting splattered by cars in them , do you ? dont recall cars parking in them either . the large planks of wood are great too , no one can see who is round the corner of them as they block the view . the greenway is uglier than the subways , the greenway is a waste of money and time . it is absolute crap as most of the residents of tolworth have said over and over . pinky107

2:47pm Tue 24 Dec 13

pinky107 says...

walk along to where they want to cross , well what was the point then , if you get to the middle in the first place why walk along it . the greenway is rubbish . more accidents in the passed month than in any month before it began .
walk along to where they want to cross , well what was the point then , if you get to the middle in the first place why walk along it . the greenway is rubbish . more accidents in the passed month than in any month before it began . pinky107

7:42am Wed 1 Jan 14

Beverly RA says...

Against the wishes of most residents the council pushed this forward, now the residents say it a failure and have serious about the danger it poses.
On the other hand you have the Lib Dem councillors putting out photos of themselves with smiling faces saying how great it is.
On the 22nd May the local elections take place. We will then see who was right, The residents or the Lib Dem Councillors.
But meanwhile lets pray that there are no more accidents and that both Drivers and pedestrians take care in this area.
Against the wishes of most residents the council pushed this forward, now the residents say it a failure and have serious about the danger it poses. On the other hand you have the Lib Dem councillors putting out photos of themselves with smiling faces saying how great it is. On the 22nd May the local elections take place. We will then see who was right, The residents or the Lib Dem Councillors. But meanwhile lets pray that there are no more accidents and that both Drivers and pedestrians take care in this area. Beverly RA

8:31pm Tue 7 Jan 14

fargis says...

Why is someone "zealous" when they try to protect and look after their community space? So little space for pedestrians and cyclists. The reporter needs to take a look at himself.

I went past here and saw it for the first time the other day. It really makes the place look better.
Why is someone "zealous" when they try to protect and look after their community space? So little space for pedestrians and cyclists. The reporter needs to take a look at himself. I went past here and saw it for the first time the other day. It really makes the place look better. fargis

10:15pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Realist75 says...

Looks like one of those skilled migrant workers
Looks like one of those skilled migrant workers Realist75

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