Cash for improving Tolworth's streets lost

Cash for improving Tolworth's streets lost Cash for improving Tolworth's streets lost

The majority of a £50,000 grant set aside for a walking improvement scheme in Tolworth has been lost after residents rejected plans Kingston Council officers had spent months drawing up.

Three of the four proposals for works on Thornhill Road were voted down at a public meeting at the Cornerhouse in Douglas Road last Thursday amid complaints that not enough was being done on pavements.

The Transport for London (TfL) money would have been spent on things like making junctions easier to cross and extending double yellow lines.

Rosina Howe, 74, of Douglas Road, said the plans did not address residents’ concerns.

She said: “[Officers should] take a consensus of opinion – what’s most important to you in your area and forget all the fripperies, and just get a basic pattern set down first.

“For me pedestrian safety is pavements. This has been a bugbear for a long time around here.”

Tolworth Councillor Vicki Harris said: “If we don’t do those projects it’s only fair that TfL get the money back to re-allocate it next year.

"But TfL don’t give us money to resurface footpaths, unfortunately. I can’t imagine TfL ever being freer with money.”

Coun Malcolm Self said: “With hindsight I probably would have done this scheme differently. What we haven’t done is just plough ahead regardless.

“I think there are lots of merits in the scheme, personally. It didn’t seem that controversial to me, but that’s how things go.”

Plans to widen the traffic island at the junction of Red Lion Road and Thornhill Road were approved, but pavement widening where Thornhill Road joins Hook Road was rejected.

Officers are now considering installing a bollard at the Red Lion Road junction to prevent cars and vans driving on to the pavement.

The installation of raised crossing areas at Douglas Road, Cotterill Road, and Ellerton Road junctions, and the extension of double yellow lines on other side roads were also thrown out.

Raising the roadway at junctions could have made things easier for people with reduced mobility.

Officers spent 126 hours drawing up the plans starting in the middle of last year – which the council said had cost the equivalent of £3,930 in wages.

Another £1,350 was also spent on officer time and distributing the consultation letters.

Only 54 out of 426 consultation forms were sent back last November, with just 27 in support.

Comments(9)

AlexKingston says...
12:12pm Tue 29 Jan 13

Council officers need to wisen up, there are a couple of projects elsewhere where TFL money has been bid for with no real consideration for the thoughts of residents.

Residents in Knights Park spent a lot of their own money fighting that silly roundabout, councillors need to put their foot down and stop officers messing about.

Just because money is there, doesn't mean it has to be spent, particularly if you don't know if people actually want or care about what you're offering!

SteveC1964 says...
12:26pm Tue 29 Jan 13

Alex, some people did want the council to put in a zebra crossing and to remove the traffic signals at the Fairfield - myself included. I'm surprised that some people in Tolworth opposed improving pedestrian crossing points. It's a shame that pedestrians are disadvantaged to the benefit of the drivers. Don't people understand how budgeting works? If you are given money to reduce the likelihood of collisions the provider of the money does not expect you to spend it on something else. If I give you vouchers for Tesco don't expect ASDA to accept them.

AlexKingston says...
2:06pm Tue 29 Jan 13

I appreciate that Steve, but there is a disconnect between how our Council goes about implementing these schemes and the people these schemes are supposed to benefit.

I think this and the roundabout (and the upcoming cycle path!) show that something needs to change in how projects are planned and explained with the local residents much more involved.

I take your point on funders only wanting to pay for the things they intend, the council can't do much about that, but simply because they can access funding for so & so, doesn't mean they necessarily should. In my local area for instance, there is a pretty hefty over provision of secure cycle racks that rarely see use.

On the raised/cross hatched pedestrian crossing points, I am not really decided, they do muddle the boundary between pedestrian and driver I feel, which can make them unsafe with priority becoming a less clear. But I don't know enough to say either way.

SteveC1964 says...
2:39pm Tue 29 Jan 13

Where is there 'over-provision' of secure cycle racks Alex? I'm curious. I know that Boris Johnson has dictated that there must be thousands more cycle racks, so maybe that's down to him?

I'm wondering how many people said they want RBK/ TfL to spend £2.6 million (+ +) on Tolworth Broadway? My guess is that people would like improvements but they can think of better wasy to spend that sort of cash.

AlexKingston says...
3:04pm Tue 29 Jan 13

Maybe Boris is to blame, but I doubt Boris dictated to RBK that my little patch of Ewell Road should roll about in secure cycle spaces for those sunny days when cyclists use the racks for the Fishponds. They're really very under-used, the changes being aired for Ewell Road now, again, are not being properly consulted about with residents involved properly from early stages.

Involvement of residents is a key part, not a nice addition to plans.

But consultation wise, recently, I think the street lamps for Surbiton was good, but, I note, RBK only made a real effort with the consultation after being pushed to, I don't know how involved Councillors were in getting that consultation extended, but I would imagine they were and credit is due.

SteveC1964 says...
4:25pm Tue 29 Jan 13

Oh, I thought you meant SECURE cycle parking not just bike stands.

AlexKingston says...
4:46pm Tue 29 Jan 13

Oh! Sorry, should have been clearer!

Beverly RA says...
8:03am Wed 30 Jan 13

More waste by this council who are going to increase our council tax by 1.99%yet
The London Borough of Hounslow, which is Labour controlled, has said it will cut council tax this year after exceeding savings targets. The town hall said bills will be reduced by 0.5% in 2013-14, the equivalent of £5.45 for a band D household. Meanwhile, Hammersmith & Fulham Council has said it will cut tax by 3%.

peterf17 says...
1:44pm Thu 31 Jan 13

I agree with the previous comments about the council needing to be better engaged with residents on these types of issues, but I find it incredible that this potential investment has been lost.

Over the years I've seen plenty of examples of unnecessary work being undertaken by the council for little or no real benefit to residents, but in most cases improvements should be welcome and its criminal that the council couldn't get their act together on this.

I'd also echo the comment about the generally poor quality of pavements in and around Tolworth. The pavement on the road where I live is frankly a disgrace and dangerously uneven, infact I doubt that any two paving slabs are at the same level. I've contacted the council several times to address this particular problem and each time I'm told that there is no money available, yet when TFL offer funding it's not accepted. If TFL's proposals aren't acceptable, why aren't the council negotiating with TFL to direct the funds to initiatives that are broasly trying to achieve the same outcome i.e. better safer pavements and roads? Bonkers.

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